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Crazy Credit declined

This is the submission: 230414-020741-436000 . It was rejected as "badly formatted", yet has exactly the same format as other similar pre-credit title cards which have been accepted in the past. There is not enough information in the error message to guess what could possibly be wrong with the format.

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3 years ago

Hi @hutch48 -

This one would actually be considered a quote, reason why it was not accepted as a crazy credit. If you see any other, like in this case, that do not belong you are welcome to report them.

Thanks!

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@Bethanny​  Here are two current submissions which have been rejected.

230414-020741-436000

230503-000818-596000

I suppose I could add them as Quotes (or "epigraphs" seems to be a description being tossed around for this kind of thing). But there are no guidelines in Crazy Credits to suggest how these should be treated. Somebody should remedy this omission, so that future contributors are not beating their heads against a brick wall.

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3 years ago

Thank you, but this is not a quote, since H.P.Lovecraft is not a character in the movie, and is not in the cast list, making this impossible to treat as a Quote.

Do you mean that the automatic machinery assigned to this decided it was a quote because of the presence of inverted commas? Most titles which reference another work of fiction usually contain inverted commas. If this is the case, the bot needs to be recoded, and the guidelines rewritten, to make errors like this more unlikely.

    True to form, the latest two submissions (in my post titled "Another Crazy Credit ... no, two more") have now also been rejected.

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@hutch48​ Although an old staff reply suggests Crazy Credits section, a newer reply by Michelle says they should be added to Quotes section. Michelle also says "I have put in a request to update our guides with this information." in that reply but it seems that was not done. But I feel this part in quotes guidelines may be relevant:

For those rare cases where no character is associated with the quote (e.g., it's on a title card), use "unknown" from the pulldown and enter the character name as Title Card (or Intertitle, or whatever you feel is appropriate).

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This is a complete turnaround from the original policy. If this new provision is not in the Crazy Credits guidelines, how will a user find it in the Quotes guidelines? Thank you for pointing out this alternative possibility, it's the rationale I was looking for above, even though it seems ridiculously complicated. But now, what constitutes a Crazy Credit? And "rare case" it is not, to have a film introduced by a title card with a quote. I've added five in the last month or so.

    The "old staff reply" (from April 2019) is interesting; it was mainly concerned with the question, "Should the author of a quote on a title card have the quote entered into the author's credits?" I would say, emphatically not; it would just make Name pages impossibly dense. And, of course, the author may not have a Name page. It's a can of worms.

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