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Thursday, July 23rd, 2020 1:40 PM

Contribution Experience Update: Responsive CX

Hi,

Today (July 23, 2020) we have made an update to our primary contribution experience (accessible from the <Edit Page> button on all name, title and company pages) to make it work responsively based on your device type.

For contributors accessing our contribution interface from desktop, the experience is almost identical.  To illustrate, below is a quick link to show the CX for editing all of the release dates for a movie, accessible via this link -> https://contribute.imdb.com/updates?update=tt0088763:release_dates.correct.all

This is what I see on my laptop:-



If you click on the same link from a mobile device, the layout of the UI will change based on your device type. Here is the same link as above, accessed from my iPhone:-





All of the underlying functionality is the same, we have just changed the layout to one that is more usable on a mobile device (you no longer have to scroll from left to right to see all of the fields in the table). 

We have moved away from the traditional grid, and have laid out each item into it's own component (with hints above the fields to show the labels).  In the example above, you can scroll down to see all the release dates for Back to the Future (1985).

The feature is enabled for every data type accessible from name, title and company pages.  It is also enabled when adding a new title -> https://contribute.imdb.com/updates?update=title&ref_=gs_newtitle_ra

If you have any questions/feedback, please respond to this thread.

Cheers,

Rachel



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4 years ago

The boxes missing for previous episodes of series is a pretty big oversight. That is going to make adding episode level credits much more difficult.

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I'm opening up a previous episode and editing it so that I can get the correct name of the actor/cast member and character name/position.

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4 years ago

Having to type in episode credits instead of being able to use the box that said "Click here to copy existing credits....." is time consuming and error prone. This seems to be a MAJOR oversight when IMDb rolled out this new "feature". Do we have an estimate on when this will get fixed or when the whole feature will be rolled back until it isn't missing necessary pieces?

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These changes may seem good to some if you're just looking for esthetics. But when adding whole casts to existing series, it sucks.
Why is it better to have to type in all the names of the cast, including all that had made previous appearances.                                                                                              Why would you remove that function? I've been making a fair number of contributions, but if I have to go back to typing every letter of every name. I will have to call it quits. Lives too short, for that much frustration.   Bronco46

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4 years ago

This is what I see on my laptop (Chrome) when trying to fix the cast and connections:-

 



The box alignment is extremely jacked-up which makes it difficult to follow especially when the section is long and the headers aren't on the page anymore. There is also the random thick black line which seems to be a minor cosmetic issue, but may be indicative of another issue.

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I noticed the spacing was different this morning and that there are those random thick lines but otherwise I didn't see any other difference (except the previously discussed missing box to copy credits from previous episodes.)

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We are trying to reproduce this issue.

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4 years ago

> All of the underlying functionality is the same, we have just changed the layout to one that is more usable on a mobile device (you no longer have to scroll from left to right to see all of the fields in the table).

If you hadn't disabled pinch/zoom, scrolling wouldn't have been a "problem".
Just now seeing this change and find it less useful. See image below, where you could once add a dozen or more credits, now you can only add 4 before scrolling.

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My experience is that you have trashed the desktop experience while tinkering with the mobile devices. The form is still there for people that are only adding one or two names at a time. But removing the ability to add without typing cast members who have appeared before and need to be added to a episode of a series. I can't speak for others. But I'm not going back to typing each and every name and job description for these TV series. It was fun when you had that resource available to us. But I don't think many of us are going to want to be part of "typing pool.
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4 years ago

I'm sorely disappointed that an employee has not responded or acknowledge the loss of funtionality. Editing my normal shows last night took much longer with having to type in all the names and a lot of the cast members positions and then let's not even talk about as attributes with accents in them.

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4 years ago

Hi,

I'm replying here given the amount of feedback provided.  Here is an update:-

  1. "Click to copy existing credits" - This was a bug and unintended, it is now fixed. Please let me know if there are any further issues with this.
  2. The layout issue described by 'thebluetuna' on Chrome, we are trying to reproduce (and have been unsuccessful so far). We'll keep trying.
  3. With regards to the feedback on the responsive experience (described by Ron and in a separate thread here -> https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/recent-site-update-has-corrupted-formatting-of-cast-update-p...), we've listened to the feedback and will disable the responsive feature when we detect you are using desktop. The team are working on that now, I'll need to get back to you with an ETA.
With regards to the points around involving our contributors before making these types of changes.  We have been attempting to do that far more this year (as Peter called out), to get early feedback on this type of change.  If there are individuals who are interested (beyond the GS champs) in this type of early insight, we are very open to including you.

Cheers,

Rachel 


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That's for responding about the "Click to copy existing credits" box. I have verified that it is indeed back. Editing television episodes without this is a nightmare. I put off watching one show last night because I need to make so many edits to it and didn't feel like typing them all out.

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Regarding Peter's feedback on the GS thread, that was a miss on my part for this launch.  We were tracking a number of launch blockers before we made the changes, I missed that one in testing.

As soon as we saw the issue raised on this thread, we researched and fixed as soon as we could today. 

I've told the team you've thanked them (as have I).

Cheers,

Rachel

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Phil G.

I appreciate what you are saying but also, as a computer scientist, know that it is unreasonable that a platform, such as IMDb, that runs over so many os/browsers/devices, etc to launch new features/designs and be completely bug free. No amount of testing will ever solve that problem especially for distribute platforms with millions of users that all may use it in a slightly different way.

I'm a champion and also a top 50 (maybe top 25) contributor. I, for one, would never consider trying to edit an IMDb page on my phone. Given the lack of physical keyboard (I miss my blackberries!), it just seems prone to error and you have nowhere near the geographical space. (I'm typing this using a 35" monitor.) I'm guessing most top contributors do so on an actual computer, not a tablet or moble device. This is one of the reasons I ignored the thread in the Champions Corner because I thought it was solely a mobile platform update.

I know it can be frustrating but time pressures and feedback from hundreds or more users is also frustrating for the support team and the developers. I'm pretty amazed that they fixed the problem with the box missing in 24 hours and rolled that out to all platforms.

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If we put to one side the copy-from-other-episodes problem, which was completely my bad (given it had been reported), rolling out changes to experiences is always a tricky balance.

The team spent a lot of time testing the feature, and addressing all (but one) of the bugs, and assessed potential UX changes that we anticipated would cause issues.  

You can only get the complete breadth of feature feedback once you put it in front of people who use it every day.

We try to do that to a subset of contributors before we launch changes, but you can never anticipate every scenario.

Martin's thread, and his photo of how he contributes data with a resized browser next to a streaming window has been extremely insightful to us, and given this, and other feedback, we're changing the CX and will disable the responsive feature when we detect you are using desktop.

On the mobile contribution point, the intent of this feature was to have an almost zero impact on the 'desktop' contribution experience (and we'd have gotten away with it if it wasn't for that pesky 'copy-from-other-episode' bug and anticipating the 'resized browser' experience').

The feature launch is to move closer to achieving parity in contribution experiences for customers who would choose to contribute from a mobile device.  Our lack of parity in mobile contribution experiences has been a long-term pain point we regularly receive feedback on.

If individuals on this thread would like to work with us on providing more insights into how you use our contribution experiences, the team would love to hear more.

Cheers,

Rachel

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I'm not sick of you ;-)

Feedback if a gift, and myself and the team appreciate you and all the other individuals on this thread taking the time to provide it.

We'll give some thought into how we can widen the net for getting more feedback for contribution feature changes like this when they are at the beta phase.

Thanks for offering to get involved.

Cheers,

Rachel

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4 years ago

Hi!  Rachel, Employee
   
I have made several improvement suggestions for IMDb
Joel, IMDb Customer Service, and others from Help Desk 
says that these need to be voted on by GS Members / IMDb Users
They are still waiting for more votes
  
So, how many voted for Your changes ? ?
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4 years ago

Hello:

I have been using the app on Android during the Covid-19 lockdown, I personally don't like the change on the app for contributions, but I actually don't like the app at all. I can't even go to IMDb Pro on the app. But that's my fault, I should use the laptop.

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4 years ago

Chrome 85, Windows 10, 15.6" monitor, window maximized.

Small entry boxes are ending up on a second, unnecessary, line.

This is adding a new title.

This is only 1 example.

 

Another:

And worst of all, assigning cast order:

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@bderoes 

 

Hello,

 

Just a quick response to say that the issue with small entry boxes are ending up on a second, unnecessary, line has been fixed.

 

Cheers,

 

Rachel

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4 years ago

Rachel - 

Any plans to make the desktop version more responsive to window size?

I usually have the window half the size of the desktop, so I can view another window along side.

 

I find it especially annoying that the menu for selecting data types is so unnecessarily wide, and retains the full width in a small window.

This

must be horizontally scrolled to select the desired option, by which time I might lose sight of where that really is.