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I've been really looking into Jules Verne films lately, and have noticed a gaping hole in the "connections" sections of "THE MYSTERIOUS ISLAND".  That is, the 1916 "20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA" is based on both Verne's "20,000 Leagues" AND "The Mysterious Island" at once.  That means it is not only the 3rd version of "20,000 Leagues" (after the 1905 and 1907 versions, both of which are considered "lost"), but also, the 1st adaptation of "The Mysterious Island". Yet the 1916 is NOT currently listed on ANY of the various "MYSTERIOUS ISLAND" films’ pages.  And it should be.  And, all of them should also be listed on the connections page for the 1916 film. I might try and add this myself... but this particular kind of submission gets more complicated than I like to bother with.  Plus, the last time I tried, someone at the IMDB site, REFUSED-- TWICE-- to add my submission concerning the film A STUDY IN SCARLET (1933), with reference to it being based on the 1931 novel "Six Hommes Morts" by Belgian author Stanislas-Andree Steeman, or add it in connection to the 3 other adaptations which are listed!  Instead, multiple adaptations of "A Study In Scarlet" are listed on the 1933 film's connections page, when the 1933 film is NOT based on Doyle's novel AT ALL. Somebody needs to change their attitude toward things like this, as it only serves to perpetuate misinformation. Oh, and while I'm at it, I might as well mention, that the 1929 MGM film "THE MYSTERIOUS ISLAND" is also NOT based on Verne's novel... but is, instead, a PREQUEL to his "20,000 Leagues".  In fact, in light of certain events in the 1929 film, which are actually MENTIONED in the 1954 Disney film, Disney's "20,000 LEAGUES" becomes a SEQUEL to the 1929 film.

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2 years ago

It might be a problem to connect the film as a version of Mysterious Island films when it is already listed as a version of 20,000 Leagues films as it may lead to all the Mysterious Island films being listed as versions of all the 20,000 Leagues films.

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@Peter_pbn​ It IS crazy, when half of the 1916 "20,000 Leagues" is based on "Mysterious Island"... but, the 1929 "MYSTERIOUS ISLAND"-- isn't-- AT ALL. (Its a prologue, not a sequel!  Too bad MGM didn't give it a different title.) That 1933 Sherlock Holmes film is similar.  The (cheap!) studio licensed the title, not the story. They told their screenwriter to come up with something different, so what did they do? SWIPE outright a then-recent Belgian novel instead.  A STUDY IN SCARLET (1933), THE RIVERSIDE MURDER (1935), LE DERNIER DES SIX (1941) and the "Six Hommes Morts" episode of the LE GRANDE DETECTIVE tv series (1975) are all based on Steeman's "Six Hommes Morts" (1931).  The IMDB approved the "connections" I added between the 2nd, 3rd & 4th films, but NOT the 1st one.  Oy! I haven't tackled THE SAINT (1998) yet.  Despite 2 characters in the film being named "Simon Templar" and "Inspector Teal", the film has NOTHING to do with Leslie Charteris' writing. I only figured out this year it was in fact adapted from Louis Joseph Vance's 1914 novel "The Lone Wolf".  The character name "Michael Lanyard" is an ALIAS-- as was Val Kilmer's name in the '98 film.  But in every "SAINT" short story, novel, movie, radio show, comic-book, tv show... "Simon Templar" is his REAL name.  And Templar was NEVER a professional thief-- he was a crusader against in justice.  I swear, somebody should have gotten sued over that film.

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2 years ago

Hi @henry_kujawa - I have to agree with @Peter_pbn here. Thanks!