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Sun, Apr 7, 2019 6:46 PM

Character names - clarification?

( This is a spin-off of the earlier thread here: https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/cast-order-clarification )

Hi. And sorry about another rather long thread.

There's a guide ( https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/filmography-credits/characters/GKLQVXKH7U8DATWX?ref_=help...# ) for adding character names and him/herself related appearances, but I still need to clarify a few things.

1) News and current affairs programs often have people appearing as "him/herself", with the occupation/title/position (etc) they represent, AND the name of the company/department/office (etc) they represent. So there can be three different things: Name, occupation, company.

For news and current affairs programs/documentaries, the description given in the subtitle when the name appears on screen is preferred. Long biographical descriptions should be avoided here and should be submitted to the individual's biography section instead.
So does this mean that all the info (that is added to the program caption along with the person's name) is also added to IMDB, no matter how long or short it can be? For example, what is the "correct" way to add these (quite random) examples. Meaning, if this would be exactly how the person is credited in the news program:

"Megan Brennan
United States Postmaster General
United States Postal Service"

A) Brennan, Megan - - - - Herself - United States Postmaster General - United States Postal Service
B) Brennan, Megan - - - - Herself: United States Postmaster General - United States Postal Service
C) Brennan, Megan - - - - Herself - United States Postmaster General: United States Postal Service
D) Something else? Like perhaps shorten these titles?

OR

"Tim Cook
Chief executive officer
Apple Inc."

A) Cook, Tim - - - - Himself - Chief executive officer - Apple Inc.
B) Cook, Tim - - - - Himself: Chief executive officer - Apple Inc.
C) Cook, Tim - - - - Himself - Chief executive officer: Apple Inc.
D) Something else?

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2) Again from the guide:

Appearances where an individual is interviewed as well as performing an act, or where an individual has multiple and distinct roles can be submitted using a forward slash as a separator. For example:
    • Himself - Interviewee/Guitarist
    • Herself - Singer/Comedienne
Does this ONLY refer to cases where the individual has multiple and distinct roles (let's say, a musician is being interviewed AND he/she is also performing on stage)? Meaning, that we don't add:

Brennan, Megan - - - - Herself - Interviewee: United States Postmaster General - United States Postal Service

Cook, Tim - - - - Himself: Interviewee

( Then again, it's often the case that the person is interviewed AND is also shown doing something else in a news story or a documentary. Like Tim Cook would work on his office or would attend a meeting. Or maybe he would ride a bike in the park or play a guitar with his cousin. )

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3) (EDIT) Additional question. Sometimes there's, let's say a news report or a documentary of the theatre play where the actors are being interviewed (as "Him/herself"). Sometimes there's a character caption (the role that the actor is playing on that theatre play) along with the name. How this should be added? For example:

Doe, John - - - - Himself - "Johnny Handsome"


Thank you again.



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2 years ago

Hi Eboy,

1) Generally speaking, the "correct" way top list this credit would be Megan Brennan *** Herself - United States Postmaster General, United States Postal Service.

2) The self credit would be sufficient in this case as the person isn't performing a secondary role as such.

3) I would submit without speech marks - Doe, John *** Himself - Johnny Handsome though inverted commas would also be allowed.

I hope this helps.

Regards,
Will

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2 years ago

Thank you Will.

One additional question, though. Since the guide says:

Commas should not be used.

Should it be?

1) Megan Brennan *** Herself - United States Postmaster General: United States Postal Service // Cook, Tim *** Himself - Chief executive officer: Apple Inc.
OR
2) Megan Brennan *** Herself - United States Postmaster General - United States Postal Service // Cook, Tim *** Himself - Chief executive officer - Apple Inc.

Just trying to clear this once and for all. :)



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2 years ago

(Sorry, I don’t do that often, but... thread bump)

One more question in the earlier post. Thanks.

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2 years ago

Yes, I probably have to create another thread for this, but gave it a one more try.

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2 years ago

I’m talking about the use of comma ( , ) with character names.

- From IMDb guide:
”Commas should not be used.”

- Will’s example (note, that there’s a comma between the words ”General” and ”United”):
”Megan Brennan *** Herself - United States Postmaster General, United States Postal Service”

- My additional question: Should it be?

1) Megan Brennan *** Herself - United States Postmaster General: United States Postal Service // Cook, Tim *** Himself - Chief executive officer: Apple Inc.
OR
2) Megan Brennan *** Herself - United States Postmaster General - United States Postal Service // Cook, Tim *** Himself - Chief executive officer - Apple Inc.

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I think the comma should not be used comes from people entering them as a separator for people with dual roles. For example, it should be "Bruce Wayne/Batman" not "Bruce Wayne, Batman".

I've found that for documentary or talk show type credits, IMDb is more lenient about comma usage. I enter a lot of documentary credits and I have yet to have one rejected for having a comma in it."

I think this should be correct (if it appeared on screen that way.)

”Megan Brennan *** Herself - United States Postmaster General, United States Postal Service” 

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I have used comma when it was part of the actual on-screen credits (if I recall, it was a fictional series with a longer character descriptions). So I don’t believe they’re rejected every time. But I still wanted to clarify this.

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2 years ago

Hi All -

To clarify, it is correct that commas should not be used as a separator for credits, instead a hyphen should be used.  However, if a comma is what is displayed on-screen, then a comma is acceptable.

So for example, "Herself - United States Postmaster General, United States Postal Service" will suffice, if the credit on-screen reads as "United States Postmaster General, United States Postal Service".

If there is no comma displayed on-screen then our preference is the use of a hyphen.