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Changing a title ... next to impossible?

As I understand it, the title by which a movie is known on IMDb is gathered from the very first frame in which the title is featured. For example, GRIM PRAIRIE TALES (1990) is actually listed as GRIM PRAIRIE TALES: HIT THE TRAIL ... TO TERROR, since that's what the first frame rather laboriously spells out. So, titles seem to be difficult to change by user submission.

The reason I ask is because of the film WOMAN IN CAR (2021) or [link=tt10197632]. The very first frame actually has the title "WOMAN IN CAR." ... in other words, there is a period added after CAR.

 I have no idea why this period was deemed necessary ... to make it unique in some way? Who knows? But should not this odd punctuation be included in the IMDb title? It seems unlikely that it is a simple error.

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Not sure about this version, but seems to be only ”Grim Prairie Takes”?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zm9ZhjHEgpk

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@eboy​  Well, the title card at 0:32, says GRIM PRAIRIE TALES, but underneath in Portugese it translates the extra bit as "Night of Stories and Terror". You'll notice that Youtube gives the whole massive title.

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I have a VHS copy of the original film, and it shows the long-form title at 0:04.

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Yes, original film has that title, but it's already correct on IMDb, what are you trying to change for that one?

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@mbmb​  Nope, I wasn't concerned about GRIM PRAIRIE TALES, that was just an example of the sometimes anal requirements IMDb demands. I was asking about WOMAN IN CAR (2021) or [link=tt10197632]. I could put in a "correction", but should I?

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@hutch48​ I see, I personally wouldn't do it but I can't say anything policy-wise because this is not something covered in the guides I think. I remember reading a reply on this subject from @VonPunk a while back that made a lot of sense. He was basically saying something like this: If the full stop had a meaning, like it was in the middle, or if it made sense to add it, then he would add it, or other meaningful punctuation like ellipsis, exclamation mark, question mark etc. but he would refrain from adding a full stop at the end of the title. I find this view sensible and I agree with it but I can't say what the policies would say about it.

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That there is nothing in the guidelines about end periods could be taken to mean that they can be included since there is no exception for them. There are several high-profile titles already listed with them:

Adaptation.

...and justice for all.

Good Night, and Good Luck.

Crazy, Stupid, Love.

Awkward.

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@mbmb​ I recall that one, it was for the series 'Terror in the Woods' where the occasional random full stops that didn't translate outside of the cheap looking title cards to other official sources for the series just would've looked messy especially next to a backslash that split the two titles (most episodes had two stories).

There was no staff input on that one but I always had the good grammar that the site prefers in certain instances in mind when I advised.

All I can think here, is if they majority of media (especially any title card onscreen) has a full stop on the end, is to screenshot it or link timestamped video to it with a submission and let staff decide if they don't chip in on this thread soon with definitive advice on the matter at hand. 

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3 years ago

Thanks to all for the input. I think I'll leave it alone, until I can think of a compelling reason to change it.

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@hutch48​ 

The compelling reason is that titles should be entered as shown on screen (where possible). Since the period is part of the on screen title, it should be reflected in the way IMDb displays it.