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Change attribute "uncredited" to "No Screen Credit".
Hi IMDB community,
I have a proposal regarding the attribute “uncredited”, change to “No Screen Credit” or NSC for short.
I note the attribute “uncredited” discussion comes up from time to time and for different reasons and I believe this suggested change will also help with those others concerns.
My reasoning is ‘Uncredited” often refers to someone listing themselves but IMDB not substantiating the credit (viewed either in the Credits roll or official documentation) and therefore “Uncredited" is currently applied.
However the term “Uncredited” also can imply a misleading detrimental connotation, in that someone worked on a project left it or was fired and therefore was (denied) not awarded a screen credit, a term known in the industry normally as “Uncredited”.
In my own case, some of my early credits from the 80's/90’s where from a time when credits where brief and only heads of departments where given a screen credit, other team member were just not considered.
I’m more than grateful to IMDB to allow my listings even if they do have the attribute “Uncredited” but would much prefer the term “No Screen Credit” (if an attribute is to be applied).
In short, Isn’t the term “No Screen credit” more descriptive anyway? e.g. Someone worked on a project, there’s normally enough public record to support the listing but they received “No Screen Credit”.
I’m also sure “Uncredited” is a redundancy from the early days of IMDB and would hope it’s time to upgrade/ improve that note (attribute).
"Like" this message as a sign of supporting a change (uncredited) to “ No Screen Credit” or add thoughts below.
Kind regards
Julian
I have a proposal regarding the attribute “uncredited”, change to “No Screen Credit” or NSC for short.
I note the attribute “uncredited” discussion comes up from time to time and for different reasons and I believe this suggested change will also help with those others concerns.
My reasoning is ‘Uncredited” often refers to someone listing themselves but IMDB not substantiating the credit (viewed either in the Credits roll or official documentation) and therefore “Uncredited" is currently applied.
However the term “Uncredited” also can imply a misleading detrimental connotation, in that someone worked on a project left it or was fired and therefore was (denied) not awarded a screen credit, a term known in the industry normally as “Uncredited”.
In my own case, some of my early credits from the 80's/90’s where from a time when credits where brief and only heads of departments where given a screen credit, other team member were just not considered.
I’m more than grateful to IMDB to allow my listings even if they do have the attribute “Uncredited” but would much prefer the term “No Screen Credit” (if an attribute is to be applied).
In short, Isn’t the term “No Screen credit” more descriptive anyway? e.g. Someone worked on a project, there’s normally enough public record to support the listing but they received “No Screen Credit”.
I’m also sure “Uncredited” is a redundancy from the early days of IMDB and would hope it’s time to upgrade/ improve that note (attribute).
"Like" this message as a sign of supporting a change (uncredited) to “ No Screen Credit” or add thoughts below.
Kind regards
Julian
stephennrussell
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MykolaYeriomin
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A very interesting subject which certainly needs more attention. I would say that for younger people (myself included) "uncredited" is already cemented in the IMDb sense of that word, so probably changing it now might spur additional confusion. I would not go as far as to say that IMDb managed to completely replace the original meaning, but it certainly popularised the term in a more positive sense, promoting the fact that appearances and jobs matter, credited or not. Also it should be noted that Filmography entries on IMDb are called listings, not credits, so there's no redundancy per se (although I must admit, a lot of people do use "credits" for individual entries and I sometimes slip into that as well).
In my humble opinion there should be a few more additional attributes for specific cases. Not that you can't create such, but having a few more or less commonly used descriptors might have made the situation about attributes a bit less confusing.
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Peter_pbn
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julian_parry
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7 years ago
Is this a "for" or "against" the idea?
And yes I note theres 1500 odd posts of the subject "uncredited" hence my suggestion to clarify that attribute (which is normally left blank) but as you note/refer their have been misunderstandings and complaints by cast & crew. By definition theres seems an issue.
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bradley_kent
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7 years ago
Screen credits, usually at the end of a title, are the main standard for IMDb listing. They are "screen credits," not "uncredited credits."
Language makes a difference.
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