Cant edit titles from company page - too much data?

@Peter_pbn​  hi they can be fixed by going to correct / delete which is supposed to display all the credits.

i can't do screenshots sir, but i can do the links. 

Nickelodeon Network 

https://pro.imdb.com/company/co0007546/?ref_=instant_co_1&q=nickelodeon%20net     

MGM

https://pro.imdb.com/company/co0007143/filmography/?ref_=co_knf_sm

Lionsgate

https://pro.imdb.com/company/co0006881/?ref_=search_search_company_result_1 

Hi @geeked_out_4_movies​ -

Thanks for posting these links, given that these are top companies they have thousands and thousands of credits.  

More specifically, for one of the above listings, can you clarify further an example of a title you are trying to correct and include the steps you are taking to make that correction (including the specific about what data you are changing)? Once we have these details our staff can try to reproduce the loading issues.

@Michelle​  hi , for example - Nickelodeon Network as I want to fix the years and add individual episode that aired on that channel.,   i go to correct / delete and it is supposed to display all the credits. I want to add individual episodes that aired on it and try to find the years the years they aired. 

@geeked_out_4_movies​ Sorry, but that is not how the company pages on IMDbPro work, and therefore your issue has nothing to do with any company page having too much data. To edit this type of data for Nickelodeon Network you need to visit the individual series and/or episode title pages and make your edits there.  

This is just like how you would not edit the title data from a person’s name page — the data is attached to the title and needs to be edited from the corresponding title pages. 

Hope this helps. 

ok i didn't know....

How do you think the system should adapt?

Hi, Peter:

The most immediate solution would be to expand processing capacity, i.e., just as the form opens perfectly when 200-300 items need to be edited without leaving any elements behind, it should continue to do so when there are many more entries.

Another solution, but a much more advanced one, would be to redesign the entire contribution system to accommodate all that data volume, but I understand that this is much more complex and unachievable at the moment.

If I had to make edits to that visual effects category I would only select Correct or Delete for a limited number of items per submission.

The first thing I notice about the data in that category is that there are a lot of duplicate entries. Arguably, part of the problem is that IMDb accepts too much bad data.

Hi @ljdoncel​ -

Thank you for taking the time to explain this in such detail.  I understand how frustrating it is to work with large title pages and departments that contain hundreds of entries, especially when the current contribution form struggles to load or crashes altogether.  This clearly makes thorough audits and corrections much more difficult than they should be.

We recognize that modern productions often involve significantly larger volumes of data than the system was originally designed to handle, and this is an important point.  I’ve forwarded your feedback and the specific Aquaman example you shared to the relevant product and engineering teams so they’re aware of the impact this has on contributors.

While I can’t comment on timelines or specific roadmap changes, please know that feedback like this is valuable and truly does help inform future improvements to the contribution experience.  In the meantime, perhaps workarounds such as what Peter_pbn suggested by working with smaller batches of data might help.

Thanks again for raising this, and I'm wishing you the best Holiday Season!

Hi, @Peter_pbn​:

You're absolutely right, but that workaround works (I've used it occasionally) when you only have to correct one or two entries in a department, not when you have to audit the entire crew in a department. Imagine having to check all 375 names from Industrial Light & Magic in Aquaman, sending small batches of 15-20 items (the greater the number of existing entries, the smaller the amount of elements that can be edited before the form crashes), without being able to track which items have already been corrected and which haven't when you refresh the page. And that's just one of more than 10 visual effects companies that participated in the film. Not to mention when you do the final scanning to add the attributes (uncredited)... It would be a real mess and there would be a very high probability of making mistakes.

And, certainly, controlling the addition of duplicate credits could mitigate the problem, but in the end it is not a very significant number either. For example, these are two films I recently audited that have a moderate number of credits in the visual effects department (nowhere near the amount of Aquaman) and the entries I deleted (mostly duplicates) are a very small percentage:

• The Chronicles of Riddick (2004): Visual effects: 338 credits corrected ~ 11 credits deleted (+137 credits added).
• Riddick (2013): Visual effects: 349 credits corrected ~ 22 credits deleted (+29 credits added).

Thank you very much, @Michelle​.

The workaround is interesting, but it has many practical limitations in cases like this. There are currently 2,148 names in the visual effects department of Aquaman. Assuming small contributions of 15-20 modifications each time, we would be dealing with more than 100 different updates, and that's without being able to properly track what has been done or not... unfeasible today with the current system. I think I'll pass for now... 😅

Happy holidays to you and the whole team! ✨🤗

Thanks for this additional feedback @ljdoncel​, I will pass this along to the team as well!