Biography disappeared from William Smith

@VonPunk​ -- I do not hijack bios, especially minibios. I tend to edit full bios but full or mini, I correct them and/or make them comport with the minimal standards of literacy in the English language.

I do not do it anonymously because that would irresponsible and counter-productive. I cannot stand seeing bios signed "Anonymous". That is unacceptable, IMHO. I stand by my  edits/corrections, until/unless I am convinced I made a mistake, and am accountable to anyone who disagrees or has an issue. 

None of which explains what happened to the full William Smith biography that vanished, by the way.

@rob_sieger​ If you did the lion's share of the bio, whether all your work or a major rewrite of someone else' contribution, just put your name on it only, if it's correcting a typo or adding sentence, leave it be instead of redirecting it elsewhere from the authors page. None of the bylines I've seen you update like above were listed anonymous and I've seen author's of bio's complain on here about you sharing the byline with them because a bio disappeared from their page and comparing it to their original submission, you only corrected a typo of two and added your name to it.

Correcting errors or making small improvements I applaud you for doing so, but you don't need visible glory at someone else's expense for doing so.

@VonPunk​ : That is right. I do not need or want or seek "glory". I do not understand what you are saying about "redirecting" anything away from anyone. I know edits are quantified, of course, but I did not know that by adding "Updated by ...." I somehow detract from another editor's accomplishments. Obviously that was never my intention.

@VonPunk :: 

Also, I may have sometimes only made small (not the same as "minor") changes but I always assumed that the biography creator would want to know who was responsible for changing their work product and not to imagine it was being done surreptitiously. Also, I thought IMDb staff would frown on changes being made anonymously. If any other editors have complained about me, I never knew or heard. They should have contacted me (as you only just now did) long ago.

@rob_sieger​ All bio's writers have an author page, you alter their byline, it removes their work from that page and from their count in the bio-writer charts.

I linked the author page for William Smith in my first post that now no longer links to Warren C. Staib's page, just redirected to a page of it's own now.

Why would they want to know who corrected a typo or added a sentence, it makes no sense to do that.

I only engaged you because I saw you on here and recognised your name from people complaining, you'll have to search to find them, so I spoke on their behalf upon seeing the opportunity to do so, to let you know, as they were complaining to staff and had no way to contact you.

Here is one such thread: https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/reporting-an-individual-stealing-byline-credits-by-vandalising-submissions/61b20e03e4279c627b145e0b

You've not done it to me, I only wrote 5 bio's myself, 3 with my pen-name on and 2 I marked anonymous because I didn't care to have them on my page when I shared my writing's as examples of my work which you think is 'unacceptable' for some reason. 100% of bio's I did minimal work on were left with the original bio's writers name intact, even if marked 'anonymous' out of respect.

You don't have my permission (or I doubt anyone elses) to edit my bylines, it's a strange and destructive practice that no one would agree with.

If you find the two I marked 'anonymous' and do a major rewrite, feel free to add only your name in the byline as that'd be fair.

IMDb know who makes every change on the entire site without need of a name added to anything, so they do not frown on 'anonymous edits', they'd likely agree with me and you can call them in here to ask if you want.

Here are something threads about stolen/hijacked authorships so you can study IMDb staffs responses to it.

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/plagiarism-byline-replacement-and-other-tales-of-ignoble-accomplishments/5f4a7bf48815453dbaf048c5

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/recurring-problem-with-byline-snatcher/5f4a79968815453dba826e0b

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/incorrect-deceptive-credit-of-plot-authorship/60092001d8aa26542faf562b?commentId=600b4b40ae94111a692aa7f6

I hope you get a response to your original issue as well of where the other bio went, it should not just vanish.

@VonPunk​ : You don't have my permission (or I doubt anyone elses) to edit my bylines, it's a strange and destructive practice that no one would agree with." -- I agree, that is why I thought putting "Updated by ..." was an honest and transparent position to take. 

@VonPunk​ : I did read the sections you pointed out. 

One complaint regarding hijacking ended thusly:

"Hi janusminoa,

Thanks for reporting, we've reached out to the contributor again to remind them of the policy we have previously discussed regarding these edits.

Regards,
Will"

Needless to say, I was not the individual notified in this case so it is possible I picked up the practice of updating by seeing it as apparently established. Nor was I ever notified/warned in general by anyone until your post that I was doing anything wrong (which I do appreciate since I see that, regardless of my intentions, I should discontinue) so I do not know if/why no one directly affected complained or why they somehow became unaccountably timid.

You've made your point but no more more colloquies. I think we have both made ourselves understood. 

@rob_sieger​ I agree, thank you Rob.