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Sunday, February 18th, 2024 3:15 AM

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as attribute for cast name of 'Beth' no longer accepted

Recently noticed that an 'as' attribute for the name 'Beth' when adding cast data is no longer accepted.  Other 'as' names seem okay.  Why is "(as Beth)" no longer a valid attribute?

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5 months ago

Hi @ron3 -

Thanks for your report, I believe this issue is isolated this this specific name page only (for "Beth Poll").  I have filed a ticket for the appropriate tech team to review and fix.  As soon as I have an update I will let you know here.

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Note: An error is causing Peter's reply to be displayed instead of ron3's.

It should be because the alternate name has been hidden by the person via IMDb Pro, as mentioned in

However, in order for IMDb to display "as a different name" for the relevant credits it should be possible to add "as Beth", so I think there is something wrong with IMDb's implementation.

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It should be because the alternate name has been hidden by the person via IMDb Pro, as mentioned in

However, in order for IMDb to hide the name in the 'as' attribute it must be possible to add the attribute, so I think there is something wrong with IMDb's implementation.

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Hi, @Peter_pbn​.

I suspect those (as...) attributes were entered before this hapless policy came into force.

Current implementation only prevents the addition of new "hidden" akas.

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@ljdoncel​ 

Or just before the subscriber chose to hide the name.

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@ljdoncel​ 

But what I meant is that if IMDb wants to display "as a different name" next to the credits where this person was credited as "Beth", then it should still be possible to add  "as Beth".

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Yes, Peter, you are correct.

The policy of displaying NAKA (even though it is public information) may be more or less debatable, but it should always be possible to send and store all the correct data, first of all because this is the primary purpose of a database that aspires to be comprehensive, and also because it may happen that someone changes their mind and decides to have their nickname displayed from then on.

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4 months ago

I was unaware of this "as a different name" policy.  I pulled up the data on a couple of other people that are using that "feature" and tried to add and correct (without submitting) their "as" attributes, and found no issues.  However, I may not have been trying the correct hidden name. https://www.google.com/search?q="as+a+different+name"+site%3Aimdb.com

Bottom line (IMO) is that in order for the IMDb to be "complete" we need to be able to submit factual data.  That data also needs to be editable.  If for display purposes, someone chooses to have that data "hidden", then the IMDb should make it clear to people viewing that data, that it has been hidden on purpose by that person or someone acting on their behalf.  Right now, I don't feel that the text, "as a different name", makes that clear.

Thanks.

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26 days ago

Hi @ron3 & all -

I'm circling back to confirm that, as discussed in this thread, the contribution form is working as designed, when this error displays it means that the claimed page owner has chosen to suppress their alternative name.

Concerning the comments here, I have relayed the feedback to the appropriate teams regarding this display and contribution experience.

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@Michelle​ It was my understanding that the main reason IMDb allows people to suppress alternative names is for privacy reasons. 

However, that clearly ought not apply to a situation such as this, where the name being suppressed consists of the given name from the person's official full name. 

If "Jane Smith" tells you that she needs to suppress the alternative name "Jane" or "Smith" or even a variation with a middle initial like "Jane L. Smith", that appears to be, at best, completely missing the point of having the name suppression option. Doing so tends to discredit the name suppression policy altogether.