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Added DVDs that are constantly rejected

Several times I added the DVDs of Feyenoord forever (parts 1 to 10) But these are continuously refused, while everything is on 'green' when filling in (and 'Feyenoord forever part 4' is already in your database, so why are the other 9 always rejected??)
I understand that you don't want any pollution in the database, but if I constantly indicate that these are existing DVDs, this should be OK.                                      (
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I would like to help to complete the database, but this way the fun is soon over if it is constantly refused....
with kind regards,Rebo

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Rebo: I can't read the text in those images too well, but I can see that there isn't any "Miscellaneous Link" entered under Mandatory Information. Do you have a link to some DVD sales site that shows this DVD for sale? (An Amazon.com page would be a good link to use as a Miscellaneous Link.)

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@gromit82​ I want you to see that it is all 'green' sheet...so that must be good.....but I have found some Dutch links, so I hope the DVD's will be in the database otherwise I quit with new titles ;-)

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@Rebo​ Yes, by entering something in the "Explanation for missing information" you were able to get the form to turn green, but after you do so, an IMDb staffer will still have to read your explanation and see if they consider it a good enough explanation. Having the form turn green is necessary to getting a title into the database but not always sufficient.

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1 year ago

IMO, Amazon sale links (or similar DVD shops etc) doesn’t belong to Miscellaneous Link section. But perhaps IMDb staff says otherwise.

You could just click the box from the beginning (not enough info, or something along those lines) and explain that this is the info you have. And maybe add those Amazon links (etc) there. Personally if I don’t find any good Misc Links, I don’t add anything to that section. But again, this is just me.

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@eboy​ 

This is exactly what the help says to add for title eligibity. What better way to prove a title exists than someone selling it?

Link to title on online retailers 

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I was talking about the ”Misc Links” section specifically. At least to me it has never been a place to add links to online retailers (and such).

If people just want to add proof/links (but don’t want to add those links to the title page, permanently), they can e.g. tick the ”explanation” box and add the links there.

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@eboy​ 

It's literally in the guide!

https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/titles/adding-a-new-title/GNXTSSVTJTFCRZGN#evidence

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Yes ok....But I don't like to read the whole guide.... ;-)

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Yes, but read the whole guide anyway.

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I don't think so....

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1 year ago

Again, I’m talking about the Misc Links section. Not about what IMDb generally considers ”proof”. 

It’s not conclusive, but the guide for Miscellaneous Links ( https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/titles/links-to-external-sites/G3FNEK9DW6TXW87J?ref_=helpart_nav_44# ) says that:

  • commercial sites / sales sites: these will be automatically rejected.

Now, perhaps ”commercial/sales sites” here means something else completely, but perhaps IMDb should still clarity that are the links for the online retailers (e.g. Amazon, but there are hundreds of other places online - worldwide, that sell DVDs, BDs, etc) accepted to the Misc Links section.

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@eboy​ I think that policy needs to be clarified.

If someone is trying to show that a direct-to-DVD title is eligible for listing in the database, the instructions on the New Titles form indicate that the title "must be of general public interest and should be available to the public or have been available in the past." The instructions also say:

"General public interest is assumed if a work has been ...

  • Listed in the catalog of an established video retailer; (e.g. Amazon.com)."

So naturally, I have assumed that an Amazon.com link would be considered a good Miscellaneous Link for submitting a new title to IMDb. I have submitted such links in the past, although it's been a few years since the last one I can find.

That should be considered a different situation from submitting sales links to IMDb once a title is already listed in the database. I understand if IMDb doesn't want sales links to be submitted for existing titles.

But for titles being newly submitted, I think the guides should be clarified to say that sales links to Amazon.com or elsewhere are indeed allowed.

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I think the intention of that point was more like for preventing spam but not specified so clearly. A video retailer link like Amazon should be perfect for misc. links when submitting a new title.

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The DVD's are not for sale on Amazon....

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1 year ago

The only site were they sell these Dutch Feyenoord DVD's is bol.com....so i hope it will be accepted ;-) and otherwise i will stop adding new DVD's.....

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@Rebo​ Btw, I don't know what these DVDs are, but it seems you are adding it as feature film, but instead it should be "Made for Video" if these were direct-to-DVD titles.

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These Feyenoord-DVD's are documentaries....and Part 4 is already in the database https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6246046/reference/

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@Rebo​ If they are direct-to-DVD titles (which they appear to be), then they should be added as "Made for Video" regardless of whether they are documentaries or not.

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OK thanx!!

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1 year ago

There is a series of 10 dvd's van Feyenoord voor altijd 01-10....5 of these are in the IMDB-Database (see the image)....every time when I want the other 5 for a new add in the database....they are refused!!!

But the input is always the same as the DVD's that are already in the Database....So, how is it possible that they still refused after 10 times adding these titles....

Here is the link...

https://contribute.imdb.com/updates/history

And I send you also the image form the DVD's that are already on the database....

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Adding new DVD's

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Rebo: I notice that no major credits (nor any other credits) were submitted with these titles: no cast, no producers, no editors, etc.

Am I correct in saying that these titles are documentaries about a soccer (football) club? If so, there should at least be people to be listed in the Cast such as players, coaches, etc., whether in new footage or with an (archive footage) attribute. And I would assume that the documentaries have credits listing the producers, editors, etc.

Whenever one submits a new title to IMDb, one is supposed to include at least three credits from among the following categories: Cast, Writers, Producers, Editors, Cinematographers, and Composers. (They don't have to be from three different categories -- three people in the same category is sufficient.) Granted, I don't see credits listed for the Feyenoord voor altijd ... titles that are already in the database, but having some credits submitted would help get the new ones listed.

I hope this helps.

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Earlier thread:

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/added-dvds-that-are-constantly-rejected/648dd2caa2a8d86316feb9aa

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Hi,

I don't understand why 'major credits (nor any other credits) were submitted with these titles: no cast, no producers, no editors, etc.' are necessary

Because the DVD's that are already in the database don't have this either....

But never mind...I give up trying to put this in, it just doesn't work this way....

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Rebo: Do you have these DVDs or access to them, to be able to see what the credits are?

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No I don't have the credits....otherwise I would have added it....

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1 year ago

Hi @Rebo -

Can you confirm if you are still experiencing these declined new title submissions?  If so, can you post the most recent 18-digit submission reference numbers here for our staff to take a look?

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1 year ago

Hi @Michelle 

Yes I still do confirm.

Here are the titles with the 18-digit submission reference numbers

Submitted Updates

230626-092614-987000
Track Contribution
2023-06-26 09:26:14 New Title - Feyenoord voor altijd Deel 10 (2008) (V)
Miscellaneous Link -  1 item added
Country of Origin -  1 item added
Languages -  1 item added
Color / Black & White -  1 item added
Genres -  2 items added
Running Times -  1 item added
Alternate Titles -  1 item added
230624-211856-720000
Track Contribution
2023-06-24 21:18:56 New Title - Feyenoord voor altijd Deel 08 (2008) (V)
Miscellaneous Link -  1 item added
Country of Origin -  1 item added
Languages -  1 item added
Color / Black & White -  1 item added
Genres -  2 items added
Running Times -  1 item added
Alternate Titles -  1 item added
230624-211754-804000
Track Contribution
2023-06-24 21:17:54 New Title - Feyenoord voor altijd Deel 06 (2008) (V)
Miscellaneous Link -  1 item added
Country of Origin -  1 item added
Languages -  1 item added
Color / Black & White -  1 item added
Genres -  2 items added
Running Times -  1 item added
Alternate Titles -  1 item added
230624-211653-544000
Track Contribution
2023-06-24 21:16:53 New Title - Feyenoord voor altijd Deel 05 (2008) (V)
Miscellaneous Link -  1 item added
Country of Origin -  1 item added
Languages -  1 item added
Color / Black & White -  1 item added
Genres -  2 items added
Running Times -  1 item added
Alternate Titles -  1 item added
230624-211533-167000
Track Contribution
2023-06-24 21:15:33 New Title - Feyenoord voor altijd Deel 03 (2008) (V)
Miscellaneous Link -  1 item added
Country of Origin -  1 item added
Languages -  1 item added
Color / Black & White -  1 item added
Genres -  2 items added
Running Times -  1 item added
Alternate Titles -  1 item added

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@Michelle 

Other DVDs of this series are in the IMDB database with the same input as these DVDs

Gr

Rebo

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@Michelle 

I'm still waiting...

These are the DVD's that already in

the database (see picture)

Gr Rebo

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Nr 10 is added....still 4 to go.

Gr Rebo

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Hi @Rebo​ -

Just following up here, the outstanding titles have now been approved and should be listed live on the site shortly.

Cheers!

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Thank you!! 😁👍