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Add support for Kazakhstan / Russian local AKA titles

Hello! Why doesn't Title display language work?

My Title display country Kazakhstan, Title display language Russian

BUT I don't see title movies in Russian. Why?

Is this a bug?

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@dos This is not a bug as such, however, we can only display data which is available in the IMDb database and there are very few local AKA titles for Kazakhstan at all.  So few, that at the present time, only the combination of Kazakhstan/Kazakh is even supported in the AKA section.  There would have to be enough customer demand for Kazakhstan/Russian to be supported and then enough contributors would need to add those local AKA titles before it would make much of a difference, sorry.  

For an example title with Kazakhstan/Kazakh, see https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15038118/

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@Col_Needham​ A huge number of films in IMDB already have titles in Russian. Almost all Hollywood films that are screened in Kazakhstan are dubbed in Russian and with Kazakh subtitles. I would just like the settings to work. I prefer to see the title movies in Russian (of course, if it is have). Am I asking too much?

PS: About this movie https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15038118/

I'm not entirely sure that it will be released in Kazakhstan. At least the local official distributor Paramount Pictures in Kazakhstan did not announce this. Not the fact that the title in Kazakh is correct.

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@dos Unfortunately this is not how localisation works on IMDb.  Local alternative titles (AKAs) are attached to a country in cases where only one language is officially spoken OR to a country-language pair when more than one language is officially spoken.  

At the moment we only support Kazakh for Kazakhstan. We do not support the display of AKA titles from another country (or country-language pair).  So your options are either to switch your IMDb display preferences to Russia / Russian or to wait until there’s enough customer demand for us to support Russian / Kazakhstan AKAs and for enough AKA titles in that category to be contributed to IMDb to make it practical to switch. 

We will convert this post into an “Idea” so other customers can express their interest. 

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@Col_Needham​ It's a pity! If I switch IMDb display settings to Russia/Russian then I will see the release date for Russia and not for Kazakhstan. I just need the Russian title of the film and the release date in Kazakhstan. I thought it was possible to switch the language, given that the settings offered a huge number of languages ​​for the Title display language.

I'll wait for Kazakhstan/Russian title support. It seems to me that since 2009 I am the only one from Kazakhstan who contributes information about the release of Hollywood films in Kazakhstan. I contributed with a Russian title when Cyrillic KOI8-R title was required.

Well. I would also like to ask about contributions. Certificate (ratings) Information. Add these options please
Kazakhstan:(Banned)
Kazakhstan:6-
Kazakhstan:6+
Kazakhstan:12+
Kazakhstan:14+
Kazakhstan:16+

Kazakhstan:18+
Kazakhstan:21+

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@DOS​ I think you forgot a "18+" in that list, checking it from here: https://kodeksy-kz.com/ka/o_kinematografii/8.htm

I also see "К", "БА", "Б14", "Е16", "Е18", "НА" ratings mentioned in some sources but as I understand it, these were the older ratings before the law was revised, am I right?

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@Col_Needham If I add a Russian tittle for Kazakhstan, which Attribute should I choose?

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@DOS​ This is covered in our reply above:

At the moment we only support Kazakh for Kazakhstan. We do not support the display of AKA titles from another country (or country-language pair).  So your options are either to switch your IMDb display preferences to Russia / Russian or to wait until there’s enough customer demand for us to support Russian / Kazakhstan AKAs and for enough AKA titles in that category to be contributed to IMDb to make it practical to switch. 

This is why this is an idea thread — it is to track the request and assess general customer demand for creating a new Kazakhstan-Russian country-language pair.

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@Col_Needham​ for example 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374089/

Көшпенділер - Kazakh title for KZ, (imdb display title).

Кочевник - Russian title for KZ, (alternative title or imdb display title???) How to choose right???

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@DOS​ Ah I see, yes, (alternative title) is correct as-is for now:

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@Col_Needham If the movie was released in theaters only in Russian dubbing. It does not have an official Kazakh name. Should be selected alternative title or imdb display title?

for example https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13345606/

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@DOS​ If that is how the title is known in Kazakhstan then (imdb-display-title) is correct. 

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But, the title is in Russian...

For example, these Disney films were shown in cinemas in Kazakh and Russian dubbing. The viewer himself chose in which language to watch the film. Both titles are well known. How to be?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317219/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1216475/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1217209/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1979376/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3606756/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1453405/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2380307/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2948372/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1630029/mediaviewer/rm3354800385/

Avatar: The Way of Water

(Kazakh) Аватар: Су жолы

(Russian) Аватар: Путь воды

Both names are known, but for the Kazakh-speaking the first title will be recognizable and for the Russian-speaking the second

This movie for Canada:

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@DOS​ A movie can only have one (imdb-display-title) per country (or per country-language pair). This means if a movie has a Kazakh title in Kazakhstan then that title must be the one submitted with the (imdb-display-title) attribute. 

As noted in our previous reply, if a title has no local Kazakh title in Kazakhstan and is only known by its Russian title in Kazakhstan, then that may be submitted as the (imdb-display-title) instead since, regardless of language, that is how the title is known in Kazakhstan. For comparison, an example of a title known largely by its original French language title in other countries around the world is: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10944760/releaseinfo/?ref_=tt_ov_rdat#akas even though words for the translation exist in the local languages.  We do not support, nor label (UK: French title) in such cases. 

Your Canadian example is correct.  We support both language attributes for Canada. We do not yet support both language attributes for Kazakhstan, sorry. This is why this idea thread exists -- to see if there is enough support for both languages in Kazakhstan (as doing so requires engineering time for us to move the data around and support the new country-language pairs). 

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@DOS​ A quick update ... we have done a little behind-the-scenes experiment on https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374089/releaseinfo/?ref_=tt_ov_rdat#akas 

In theory the submissions forms should catch-up with the new country-language pair in the next 24 hours then your preference will then be supported and further titles added / edited.  We may have to revert the change if not. 

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@DOS​ The contribution interface menu did not auto-update with the new country-language pair so we have opened a ticket with the appropriate team to see if we can move it along (ticket reference number #P91671852)

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@Col_Needham GREAT UPDATE!

THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH!!!

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@DOS​ Thanks, yes, the changes (eventually) worked and the new country-language pair is now supported.