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#210712-224855-846000 removing plot outline declined

In #210712-224855-846000, I tried to remove the plot outline for Patrick Melrose (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6586318/reference) because it is not a plot outline, it's no more than a writing credit, for which, of course, IMDb has its own section. However, my submission was declined. If staff declined it because that would leave the plot outline section open (which I would think is a bad reason, mind you), I would suggest using the plot summary written by Tom Daly. If the part before the comma (the non-plot part which is again no more than a writing credit) is removed, it has a good length for a plot outline.

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Hi Marco -

I reviewed the Plot request and can see that it was not accepted because we didn't receive a more in-depth Plot outline replacement.  In instances where a plot is unknown or when we do not yet have a detailed plot outline for a title, we are accepting in including content that helps provide context for the title (ie. "based on", "installment of", etc.).

If you know the plot for this title, I encourage you to submit a Plot Correction with the new information and our editors will take a look.

Cheers!

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@Michelle A few things:

-In my OP, I already suggest a plot summary that would be a good plot outline.

-You're saying that information from another section (in this case, the writer section) can be added to the plot outline section. Why does IMDb feel this way? What makes the plot outline section different from all other sections, where one isn't allowed to submit information that belongs in another section?

-I have not seen this title so I therefore can't write a plot outline for this title. With the obligation to replace a non-plot outline (such as this one) with a proper one, you risk people who haven't seen a certain title create a plot outline nonetheless. I hope you agree that's not desirable.

-Not everybody who updates IMDb reads the guides and/or this board. That means, that by allowing these non-plot outlines for all to be seen, you run the risk of contributors adding more of them because they think it's a perfectly fine plot outline (instead of the placeholder IMDb apparently considers it to be).

In short, I urge IMDb to please change its mind regarding this issue.

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Well, it is not always necessary to see a movie before conjuring a very short plot description for it.

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@jeorj_euler I would always advise against writing a plot outline, summary and/or synopses for a title one hasn't seen, but that's just me.

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Unfortunate as it may be (perhaps for bordering on plagiarism), such brief plot descriptions would invariably be derivative of plot summaries or even movie reviews written by people who have actually seen the movies to which the plot descriptions correspond. Given those conditions, still the descriptions are more likely to be accurate than had they been created based off the contents of movie trailers. So, the only potential problems I really see would pertain to description accuracy and proper attribution. All too often, plot outlines authored by the studio or filmmaker responsible for the creation of a movie itself are shamelessly copied from one website to another, or one magazine to another, and the proper attribution may be missing if it is unknown. On that note, such a phenomenon has existed since before even stuff like TV Guide.