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Wed, Dec 6, 2017 7:51 PM

Updates to List Pages

Today (Dec 6) we are announcing an update to the List pages on the IMDb desktop experience. This update is part of the broader site changes announced recently (https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0). After in-depth discussion and examination, we have decided to simplify the features and functionality for lists. We have merged “compact view” and list editing into a single Edit experience. In that one view, you can now modify your text and add, copy, delete and move items. We have also pulled List actions (edit, export, settings) together into a 1-click menu (the 3 vertical dots on the top right of the page). You will now also find two new options in the Refine menu: ‘In Theaters’ and ‘Keywords.’  Tech constraints on the new system prohibit us from continuing to support drag-and-drop from the Edit view; we appreciate your understanding. For more information about Lists, see the IMDb Help Center.

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Description Markup - Only some of my "colors" are working..

Description Markup - Only some of my "colors" are working.

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honestly, just bring back the compact mode. i haven't been on IMDB for a few months and this happens... just makes me want to use this website even less

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I agree. What users were complaining about having compact mode? Who is actually saying now, "Thank God they took away compact mode. It's so much better to have less features and less ways to view my lists." ??? It's absolute nonsense. I'm preparing to update my favorites list but I have so many titles on it it's impossibly tedious to review it to see where I want to place my new entries.

My solution is to add an Amazon video hyperlink to the compact mode. It's obviously the reason why they got rid of compact mode because God forbid you can't see an Amazon link on everything nowadays. Or at least give a compact mode for the author at they very least! We dont need to read a whole synopsis and see a huge poster of every movie we have on our lists. We know already! Lol

Anybody with more than 100 titles per list should be disguised at this change. What on Earth is IMDB doing with their site? I'm finding myself clicking on this thread almost every time over viewing actual lists now. Just to see if they can actually say they may be considering to reconsider bringing back compact mode. At least give us some lip service.

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I miss Compact mode too, and I hope they'll bring it back. I love the new Edit mode for some purposes, but for rearranging position, or moving/copying a part of a list, not so much. Here's what I would do while we're waiting for CM to be restored if I were really itching to update my list.

I'd open a few tabs worth of my destination pages, and compact them with Jeorj's bookmarklet for Viewing a list. Every time you refresh the page to see the moves and new position numbers, you have to re-compact the page, but it's instantaneous. It's one of the reasons I'm displaying the Bookmarks Bar again.

If you need to have multiple tabs of Edit mode open, know that you can append &page= to the Edit URL (or the View list URL for that matter), and you can right-click the NEXT page link to open in new tab. Both should be helpful.

I'm not arguing that my suggestions are reasonable. Frankly, I'd like to see an ATS sort option of List Order so we can see the position number in a compact list of 250 again.

But I'd prefer the old Compact mode, where we could Refine and Move titles elsewhere. I have a custom-ordered list of 580+ titles with ~180 short films that I'd really like to move to another list. But they're interspersed throughout, and although I can see which ones are shorts while in Edit mode, and can use ctrl-F to find "short" everywhere. Still, if I miss one, then I have to re-position it after moving. I'm choosing to procrastinate that project until I know whether Compact will be resurrected orreplaced properly. 

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Thanks appreciate it. But seems like too much effort and like you said about refining, etc. Just won't work for what I want to do. Really hope to hear back from IMDB about this and the reasoning for eliminating compact mode. Perhaps hopefully through understanding we can come to some sort of a compromise. I'm sure there's a lot more users upset about it but probably don't post here. In any case hope they can bring it back. Happy New Year too you and all the users and IMDB staff for working hard to improve and considering user suggestions for improving the site. Hope to hear from them.

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4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled User Description Markup: Changes have been made to my ability to edit the "Descri....

Changes have been made to my ability to edit the "Description box" on my lists and am wondering if or when they will return. Besides creating [b]BOLD[/b] or [i]italic[/i] I was able to colorize my text. Currently purple is the only color that works. Will [blue]BLUE[/blue], [red]RED[/red] or any of the other colors be returning? Please see: https://www.imdb.com/activity/help/descriptionmarkup

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4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled List editing has become a complete nightmare.

No compact list view, no alphabetical sorting in "EDIT" mode, no way to narrow listing e.g with actor name, director or IMDb code. Working with long lists, trying to find duplicates to delete, is impossible now. This is not an upgrade of features, this is a user non friendly downgrade.

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No alphabetical sorting in "EDIT" mode has made IMDb lists virtually uneditable.

If alphabetical sorting is available in VIEW mode, it should not be that big a deal for IMDb programmers to add that function to EDIT mode.

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Don't wish so small. All of the Refine (perhaps not by Keyword) and Sort functions from View mode could/should be available in Edit mode.

Don't forget, though: in Edit mode you probably want to see the actual Position number within the list, not the position after sorting/selecting, which is what View does. So it's not just a matter of tacking on some Sorts and Refines.

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bderoes -- I started thinking small because I'm willing to settle. I'd be happy to get alphabetical sorting back, because having only two options (List Order and Date Added) in EDIT mode has made my life miserable.

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4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled My Lists.

Why can't we print our lists without the pictures anymore. They took away that option. Is there still anyway to do it?

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Not within IMDb-provided features, but...

Another user created a bookmarklet to view title lists without any thumbnails or details:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/update-to-list-pages?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=...

It works very well. (Thanks again Jeorj!)

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4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Thanks IMDb Technical Staff.

Though 'drag-and-drop' was the ideal means of editing/updating user-lists, it is great to see the number-editing system is now working across the board. It is more labor intensive but at least it gives the user the ability to position titles complimentary to the layout of a particular list.
As far as that fix is concerned, I am grateful.

P.S: In context, here is an example of a list that is applicable to title-placement: "2018: A Movie Odyssey" - http://www.imdb.com/list/ls000643238/ 

Thanks for all your effort, and a Happy New Year.

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@IMDb execs:
This list reminds me of a feature I'd like to see in ATS: when viewed in detailed mode, I'd like the search results to display the comments from the list. Probably only possible when a single list is the source of titles.

Also @IMDb: (Sort of a bug) I just noticed that in the right column, under "Other Lists by Dr-Faustus" we get the list that we're viewing (not unique to this user). It seems this is the 5 most-viewed lists, regardless of whether we're currently viewing one of them. Seems like you should either change the title, or make room for a 5th Other list.

@Dr-Faustus
I need an audio emoji of a long slow whistle here. Your list has 5400+ titles, you maintain it in chronological order, and no duplicates! (I compared your most recent 100 with your last 100 in List Order, and indeed you had added older films which were not among the last group anymore.) Well worth the 1M+ views you have. I'm pretty sure I've viewed it before myself. I love the orderly presentation of links in the list description.

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Hi bderoes

Thanks for the positive feedback in regards to my '2018: A Movie Odyssey' list. I try to run a tight ship so as not to encounter problems down the line. Updating and reference is far easier within a set framework.

I am very interested in your remarks in your first paragraph but do not understand all of it. Is there a possibility, if you read this post, to supply me with further details? It appears that I am not seeing the same thing at my end.

Thanks bderoes

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@Dr-Faustus
My first paragraph was
@IMDb execs: This list reminds me of a feature I'd like to see in ATS: when viewed in detailed mode, I'd like the search results to display the comments from the list. Probably only possible when a single list is the source of titles.
What I meant is that when I perform a search through ATS and display IMDb detail information, I don't see the list-maker's comments. And since it's possible to search other people's lists by modifying the URL generated by ATS, I don't get to see their comments.

You've provided links that use Refine features, so I can see your comments when I use your links. But when I use ATS for the titles on your list among the IMDb bottom 1000, I don't see your comment:
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?groups=bottom_1000&lists=ls000643238

Now, it turns out that I can just append ?groups-bottom_1000 to your list URL and see what I want:
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls000643238/?groups=bottom_1000

But either I erred, or not all search criteria can be appended to list url's. For instance, companies= and runtime= don't seem to work.

Since I don't have a catalog of parameter names and possible values, I don't want to try tweaking results on a list URL. I'd rather that ATS display the comments, the only thing it doesn't display now.

I suppose I shouldn't have restricted my wish to a single list. If I compare one of my lists to yours, I'd love to see both sets of comments, with Dr-Faustus attached to yours, and bderoes attached to mine.
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?lists=ls000643238,ls027794353

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Hi bderoes

I understand. Thank-you for the detailed explanation. This is a bit embarrassing but I was thinking, "What the heck is ATS?" I thought you were maybe referring to the programming language but, of course, you were referring to the Advanced Title Search function - sorry about that.

On another note; I see you found the means to combine and compare lists, and there is a complete 'how-to-do-it' link attached to your profile page. Very interesting. I'll be testing it out after this post.

Anyway bderoes, thanks for your feedback and may you have a Happy New Year.

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  • "GS" or "Get Sat" for Get Satisfaction
  • "ATS" for Advanced Title Search
  • "ANS" for Advanced Name Search
  • "WAB" for Without a Box
There are probably some other uncommon acronyms that might be common around the IMDb community's discussion venues.

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Hi Jeorj Euler

Acronyms, for the most part, are easy to decipher in context of the subject discussed in a thread or post, especially when directly associated with IMDb itself. Besides my post above, I think difficulties can arise when acronyms are used from an external source that not everyone is familiar with. I think an easy way to solve this, if an acronym is used multiple times, is to state what it's meaning is when it first appears, followed by the abbreviated version.

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@Jeorj Euler
Thanks for the acronym list. It is very useful for those less familiar with this ongoing discussion on Get Satisfaction (GS).

@Dr-Faustus
It is good practice to spell out an acronym on first use and include the acronym in parenthesis, much as I did in responding to @Jeorj Euler above.

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Good suggestion: it is good practice to spell out an acronym on first use in an email or document then use the acronym later on.

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What would be really nice: a bookmarklet that would insert the text
Advanced Title Search (ATS)
And maybe it could be an active link to 
http://www.imdb.com/search/title

I'd also like the moon, and world peace.

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4 y ago

From the lists FAQ:
"How can I move list items without drag and drop?
On the list you want to reorder, click the 3 vertical dots and select "Edit" from the menu. Once the page loads, replace the position numbers of those items in the desired order and select "Done" and then select "Save" when the pop up window is displayed.
For example, to move an item that is currently at #5 in the list order to #1, replace the number 5 with the number 1. Click "Done" at the top of the screen, then "Save".  The page will refresh with the new order."
You... you gotta be kidding me. This extract reads like an April Fool's Day joke.

Going from a fairly modern solution to something I have last seen in the 1990s? If you indeed employ a UX/UI designer he is either very busy with other projects, very ashamed or very overpaid.
Now get his (or a new one's) attention and fix this before this goes viral and everyone will need to explain it to their bosses.

When you do I will came back to curating my lists, since as it is the day is too short for me to accomplish this.

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@IMDb staff:
The Lists FAQ that Dawid Wnuk cites is horrible advice. Here's what's wrong:
On the list you want to reorder, click the 3 vertical dots and select "Edit" from the menu. Once the page loads, replace the position numbers of those items in the desired order and select "Done" and then select "Save" when the pop up window is displayed.
For example, to move an item that is currently at #5 in the list order to #1, replace the number 5 with the number 1. Click "Done" at the top of the screen, then "Save".  The page will refresh with the new order
While the directions are "accurate", they send you OUT of list Edit mode. For people who want to change multiple titles, but want to do them one (or a few) at a time, this is a lot of extra time wasted.

Instead, after entering the new position number, I would advise:
'Click "SAVE LIST ORDER" and the page will refresh with the new order.'

If the user wants to exit, they can find the Done button on their own (or just leave the Edit mode).

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Hi, Dawid Wnuk and bderoes. You two might want to repeat those same messages of yours over at the "New IMDb Help hub" topic. I'm not sure, but please consider it.

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You two might want to repeat those same messages of yours over at the "New IMDb Help hub"topic. I'm not sure, but please consider it.
No need to report separately as the team directly responsible for this feature are already reading (and acting upon) this thread, thanks. 

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@bderoes, you are right of course, there are discrepancies. My point however was mostly that the new "method" of rearranging lists is absurdly non-user-friendly. Fixing the description will help people realise this faster and easier, but this is pretty much all it solves :(

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Let us hope that things are synchronized, Col Needham.

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4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled List Extracter Changes - Title in Original Language.

Recently IMDB changed their list extraction via MS Excel. In the new extract / download three major changes occurred.

1. Title Language - is now always in original language but not as per preferred title language settings. Can this be changed back to the title in preferred language

2. Your Ratings - the own ratings are no longer part of the extract / download. Can this be added back

3. Title Type - Title Types are no longer displayed as "Feature Film", "Documentary", ... but rather "Movie" and other.

Point 1 and 2 are rather significant and I wanted to ask if it can be fixed please?

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I see that "Your Ratings" is already addressed and will be fixed. I did not see any comments regarding how the title is being displayed in the download. Non-english movies are now showing with the original title in the extract only independent of your personal settings regarding title language. I would appreciate if the personal settings could be considered in the extract too please.

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4 y ago

I just posted an Idea saying this:
I have a list with 590 titles. It's in no particular order because the Refine and Sort options are sufficient for my purposes...UNTIL...                                                                                                              
I needed to edit the comment on one film. Now I don't know where the title IS to get to it in the Editor. If I had the Refine and Sort features IN the Editor, it would be easy.                                                   
I don't want to go to the Title page and unhook it from the list and re-add it. Then I'd lose my Comments, which might have markup codes not copyable from outside the Editor.                                       
So now, either in View mode or in Edit mode, I have to page through the list and ctrl-F to find the title. Fortunately the list has only 6 such pages. Pity the fan who put comments on a 6000 title list and didn't PUT it in order!                                                                                                                                
If you are NOT going to add Refine/Sort inside the Editor sometime SOON, please provide a way to see the true POSITION number within the list (other than Export) after Refine/Sorting in View Mode, or perhaps after searching in ATS (Advanced Title Search).
If you'd like to vote for it, or add comments like "Bring back Compact View!", you can find it here:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/need-position-numbers-of-titles-in-a-list

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4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled "Check in" list missing..

My "check in" list has been missing recently (past 2- weeks approx). Anyone know what might be the issue. I am from Sydney, Australia.

When I click on "Lists" under my user name no lists are visible.

I have attached a screen shot.

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@ROTHMANMAX

Look at your Activity Page (dropdown menu, upper right corner of almost every IMDb page). You can find a link there.
Don't know if they'll be adding it back in to the List of Lists page.

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Thanks bderoes!

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Editing Lists Problem.

Up until recently I loved that I was able to change the order of films in a list to customize to how I wanted it. I did this by dragging the the movie to a new spot in the order. I'm not sure why but this function was removed, now I have to type in the spot on the list where I want it to be. It was a lot easier before. Can anything be done to fix this?

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4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled IMDb lists.

I used to have fun casually making silly lists for myself, as well as watchlists, schedules and Best of Year lists for my work as a buff and critic.Fist off, the format gobbles up memory like an SOB. This is bad for me, because I make long lists and have RAM issues. The pages take so long to load, render and process activity, and sometimes crash. I have to be careful when I scroll, because doing that often freezes my computer solid for 2-4 minutes, then slows it to a crawl afterwards.I blame the above issue on there now being title buttons and rating abilities in the editing phase. Why? This essentially ensures that the list items are embedded upon their addition, and that managing them from there is hell.That blasted checkbox!!! Like an incompetent dictator, it rules list arrangement with its idiocy, joining with "Change" buttons to refresh already slow-acting pages to shift things. Changing an item's position requires selecting that box, typing the item's new rank, and selecting "Save List Order". You no longer drag the item up or down, and change only one's position at a time. It's some of the most amateur and perfunctory arrangement formatting I've ever worked with.I'm too worn out and angry to even try going into what I think about typing notes under my items. Jst rest assured that everything about the list-making process is much, much, much worse. It feels like a nightmare, quite frankly. For years, making lists has been my main connection to IMDB, and now O'm fixing to take my business to Letterboxd. IMDB, return the old format, improve the new, or quietly go to hell. If not, I at least got to vent as publicly as I wanted to.

Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: New List Editing Format.

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4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled IMDb lists.

I just started using Lists, then immediately the drag and drop feature was removed.  As a programmer myself, I could opt for the lazy route and just remove features, or could add a second editing page with different tools instead of trying to do it all on one page.  It is really disappointing to have things taken away for no good reason.

Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: Ongoing changes to several IMDb features.

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4 y ago

Please restore SORT options in EDIT mode!!  Particularly for WATCHLIST!

It appears that the only SORT options in EDIT mode are "Date Added" and "List Order".  These are NOT SUFFICIENT to manage my WATCHLIST.  Particularly "Your Rating" and "Release Date" and "Popularity" and "IMDb Rating" --all of which I use to manage my WATCHLIST.

I am one of the multi-decade users of IMDB.com, so I have years of ratings and lists.  But without being able to SORT my WATCHLIST in EDIT mode, I might as well use the "Want to See" button on rotten tomatoes.

Thank you!!

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4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Can I export (to Excel) a list I created other than my watchlist?.

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@Semaj D Nob
Yes. While on the list's page, find the 3-vertical dot menu button to the right of your list title.