Colin, question; in the midst of these updates, are you planning to add a feature where we can find lists on IMDb? Because right now, there's no way. You can't go through the most popular ones, the most likes, the only ones you can see are those that have been most recently made or by using google, which is limited usually to a scant few popular ones, we're talking about maybe a few dozen. Right now, the only way that we can make others remotely aware of our lists is to include links on others' lists, in a 'if I comment on yours, could you comment on mine' sort of way.
A feature like this would make lists far, far more accessible, hugely increasing views and therefore ad money.
You, other IMDb users and I have requested an indigenous IMDb list search for the last five years. Such a search would be more convenient and useful. However, this approach works fine in most cases.
How much revenue do those 100 million additional customers bring to the site?! How much data contribution and troll suppression do they bring?! Why do they matter so much?! Is it just because there are a whole lot of them?! Whatever...
Hi everyone. Here is a list of updates we've made over the past week (Jan 19):
We added pagination to image lists to fix an issue causing browser crashes with large lists
We increased the number of items you can see in a list (up to 250 per page) to help users with long lists move items around since drag-and-drop is no longer available
Bug fix: If you have a list of 1000+ titles and add another, the total count is now updated correctly
Bug fix: We fixed an issue that was causing problems for Kindle Fire users who wanted to reorder list items
Already implemented:
Improved list item validation. You can no longer add invalid items, for example, if you accidentally mistype an image ID you will get an error so you know to correct it. Also, if an image is no longer available, you have the ability to delete it so that your list item count is accurate [DONE]
Improved the list creation form so that it accepts & and + (for list name and description) [DONE]
Improved list display on Your Activity page (aka your Profile page) so that long list display names wrap to multiple lines [DONE]
I'll update this thread weekly. Thanks for your ongoing feedback and for bearing with us as we make updates to the new system.
We increased the number of items you can see in a list (up to 250 per page) to help users with long lists move items around since drag-and-drop is no longer available
How do we control this number of items we see? I still get 100 per page (and that's good for normal situations).
It looks like that was only changed for edit mode. If they would please increase it to 250 for viewing purposes that would be a step in the right direction. Hopefully they can reinstate compact mode after that.
I suppose the good news is we can open multiple tabs/windows of Edit mode to see both where the title is and where it's going, and have the number of titles/page match.
But this is no substitute for drag-and-drop. As documented again in more detail 3 days ago here https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/update-to-list-pages?topic-reply-list[settings][filter_by]=a..., moving titles within lists is a messy business. I don't know if there IS a fool-proof way of moving multiple titles at once and have them land in the exact location you want (at least not without the human understanding the algorithm so well you can predict where it will land).
If we have to move 1 title at a time to ensure its location, then we need to refresh (potentially multiple pages) after each move. With a longer Edit view, that means longer refresh time, and needing to use ctrl-F and other keyboard shortcuts to get to the place on the page that you need. This implies that we need an option to display only 100 titles in Edit mode.
It also implies that we still need drag/drop! As I recall, it was only 50 titles/page for that view, probably because things get wobbly with dynamic "card" placement.
Edit mode is the least efficient at displaying thumbnails, since it is
dynamically compressing an extra-large image into a tiny space, and
takes visibly longer to finish loading than other types of pages.
Correct. Shows how little IMDb programmers know about web design. And seriously what does a 40px x 57px image do to a page except add a little color. It is so small it might as well not be there. Which is exactly the point.
Here's a simple example that still fails (destination also placed in comment to track success/failure). Note, title 3 is unaltered; so what was ABCDE is supposed to come out EDCBA: And here's the failed result of Save List Order, instead of EDCBA, is ECDBA: Here's a simpler one; just move the first title before the 4th one: and the result is NOT what the human wanted. (I won't clutter the post here, but moving a title ABOVE it's current position DOES give the expected result, as it did previously.)
I mentioned ... that Information Science has studied the problem of sorting/merging extensively. But I'll bet most if not all academic articles on the subject deal with an objective, unchanging key by which the items should be sorted. Hopefully IMDb staff are realizing that when we specify that we want an item to appear before the title currently at position n, they need to hang on to the actual title, not just the number n. Otherwise many combinations of moving more than one title at a time will fail.
"Position n" is apparently still NOT an objective unchanging key when certain combinations of moves are requested.
What is the status of bringing back the ability to edit the "Description box" of an IMDb entry? I am hoping that in addition to creating [b]BOLD[/b] and [i]italic[/i] (currently the only editing features I am aware that are available), I would like to once again colorize my text. Colors like [blue]BLUE[/blue], [red]RED[/red] or any of the other colors once available on: https://www.imdb.com/activity/help/descriptionmarkup would be GREAT!!
Also if you could set default views for our lists.
Another thing which I'm sure you haven't got to yet is to include the vote amounts next to the average IMDB score and any score that is 7 should be 7.0 or 8 should be 8.0 just so it aesthetically look better like it does in edit mode.
Hi everyone. Thanks for your patience and feedback as we've released List features over the past 3 months. This will be the last of the weekly updates to this announcement thread, but please keep adding ideas for future List ideas here: https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb?topic-list[settings][type]=idea I'll post new announcements on Get Satisfaction as we release new features and functionality in the future.
How can I effortlessly move a new entry on a very long list (lets say number 550) to page 3, position 250. Before the change, it was easy as I could just go to page 3 in edit mode, add it there and drag it to the exact position where I want it. But now it always puts new entries to the very end of the list.
An interesting tidbit that emerged somewhere in this thread: the Ratings are in a separate "system" than the lists. That's why adding the personal rating column back into the Export is taking so much longer than the director, release date and url did.
I also wonder why the presentation of the Refine options is so different on Watchlist & Checkin than on custom lists. And why is their Export option down at the bottom of the page instead of under a 3-dot button at top? These notions have nothing to do with back-end infrastructure. Unless they are designed to hide the fact that we have fewer Refine options on WL and C, which could be due to backend data structure.
We recognize that this isn't ideal, particularly for those with many lists, and we plan to iteratively update it as this is an important piece of the IMDb experience.
We recognize that this isn't ideal, particularly for those with many lists, and we plan to iteratively update it as this is an important piece of the IMDb experience.
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No danger of this -- lists are a core feature of IMDb and are from where IMDb originates. The latest changes have already enabled us to add list editing to our Android app at https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/imdb-android-lists-update which brings full list support to more than 100 million additional customers who did not have it before this week (see install count on https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.imdb.mobile).
What we especially appreciate from you are the clear, constructive and actionable feedback items. We will not be able to get to all of them in 2017 (see https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0 :-) but they are going on a prioritized list for consideration by the appropriate teams.
Thanks.
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Already implemented:
- Improved list item validation. You can no longer add invalid items, for example, if you accidentally mistype an image ID you will get an error so you know to correct it. Also, if an image is no longer available, you have the ability to delete it so that your list item count is accurate [DONE]
- Improved the list creation form so that it accepts & and + (for list name and description) [DONE]
- Improved list display on Your Activity page (aka your Profile page) so that long list display names wrap to multiple lines [DONE]
I'll update this thread weekly. Thanks for your ongoing feedback and for bearing with us as we make updates to the new system.5
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- We fixed an issue that was causing encoded characters in list descriptions to display incorrectly.
- We fixed an issue on the Showtimes page that caused the Watchlist ribbon to render incorrectly when viewing trailers.
Additionally, see the iOS update announcement here: https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/ios-update-version-8-5-1-now-available. We've updated lists on iOS with the ability to add or edit notes to any movie, show, or person.2
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- We improved list reordering to make edits work more predictably.
We're continuing to work on additional sort options; I'll post announcements when they are available.1
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