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Sort by IMDb Rating feature has recently changed
The sort criteria for the "Sort by: IMDb Rating" feature used to sort Title lists has recently been changed.
It used to do a more refined sort so that titles with same generic rating (e.g. 8.0) were sorted by a more specific rating,
making it possible to see which titles with the same generic rating were rated higher.
Now, instead, it appears to be sorting using three simple sort fields: the generic rating, the year the title was released,
and the title (alphabetical).
I have been using this feature for a long time to choose movies to watch or to buy, but it is now far less useful.
If you have a lot of titles on a list with the same generic rating (e.g. 8.0), it is no longer possible to see which of those
titles is rated higher than the others.
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Col_Needham
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@MSebring The sort has now been updated. The secondary sort order in the event of a tie on user rating is now title popularity.
To add support for extra precision in the ratings in future, feel free to vote and/or comment on this idea thread.
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Col_Needham
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@MSebring Thanks for the problem report. Please can you give a few examples (with URLs of the affected pages) so the appropriate team can investigate.
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MSebring
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You can see the same result in any Titles list, but you can use one of mine as an example:
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls020846370
Go to the "Sort by" option and choose "IMDb Rating". (I do this on a Windows PC.)
Before: All of the titles on the list were sorted by their specific rating on IMDb.
(Not just by their generic rating. It was a more refined sort.)
Now: Each group of titles with the same generic rating (e.g. 9.0) is sorted by year and title.
For example: "The Godfather Part II" (1974) used to appear before "12 Angry Men" (1957).
Now it comes after because all of the titles with a rating of 9.0 are sorted by year.
I believe this change was made 2 or 3 weeks ago.
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MSebring
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There are a few anomalies that I am unable to explain:
"The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring" (2001) appears ahead of "Fight Club" (1999)
in the 8.8 group.
"The Green Mile" (1999) appears ahead of "Saving Private Ryan" (1998) in the 8.6 group.
Generally though, it appears that each group with the same generic rating is now sorted by year.
If possible, I would like to see the old sort criteria reinstated.
If I have a list which contains a large number of movies with a generic rating of 7.5, I would like
to see the higher rated ones toward the top and the lower rated ones toward the bottom.
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MSebring
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I have a hypothesis that I believe explains the anomalies.
I believe that the second sort field is the title number (in the URL) assigned when the page is created.
In most cases the title number sequence and the release year sequence are the same, but sometimes
a page is created for a movie in a year prior to its release.
tt0120737 LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring 8.8 2001
tt0137523 Fight Club 8.8 1999
tt0120689 The Green Mile 8.6 1999
tt0120815 Saving Private Ryan 8.6 1998
tt4154796 Avengers: Endgame 8.4 2019
tt4633694 Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse 8.4 2018
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Col_Needham
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@MSebring Thanks for providing the details. We have opened a ticket with the appropriate team (ticket reference #P78126756).
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I would like to add one more clarification.
When I said that previously they did a more refined sort using a more specific
rating than the generic rating displayed on the IMDB page, what I meant was:
Prior to the change, they sorted the average rating using more than one digit
to the right of the decimal point.
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I would like to reiterate some things.
The whole point of sorting a titles list by IMDB rating is to end up with a ranked list
from the title considered best to the title considered worst. Though the IMDB rating
isn't perfect, it's the best gauge that we have available (and it would be even more
useful if the average rating could be sorted using more than one digit to the right
of the decimal point). Using popularity as a second sort field is a mediocre substitute
for sorting the average rating with more precision, but at least it is better than the
new secondary sort field which has nothing to do with preference at all. What we
end up with now is a list containing groups with the same general rating, with each
group sorted arbitrarily in a sequence that isn't helpful to anyone.
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