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Tue, May 18, 2021 6:23 PM

INTRODUCING: Updated IMDb.com Title page experience

INTRODUCING: Updated IMDb.com Title page experience

We are excited to announce the launch of IMDb’s newly refreshed movie and TV show pages! The renewed page is meant to make your IMDb experience easy and enjoyable, and its design represents the diverse interests of global entertainment fans. The refresh reflects IMDb customer feedback and research designed to enhance entertainment content discovery and navigation.

Please note, we are gradually launching the new design to a selection of IMDb customers. If you do not yet see the design, we expect to make it broadly available in the weeks ahead. Thank you for using IMDb!

For more information, check out this Help article.

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66 Points

2 m ago

I find the new format less easy to comprehend and view due to the information I seek being spread out across different areas of the page. I don't find the black screen helpful either. Although, I understand that a site needs a spring clean once every so often, I also believe that if it isn't broken, then don't fix it! I have no quibble about the cosmetic enhancements. Just that the layout is less practical and even somewhat frustrating to view. Keep up the good work.

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102 Points

2 m ago

Far too fussy, an overload of photos, videos, and pictures, leading to a much slower page loading on Android 10, and a far more confusing look. It used to be far easier to see lots of info at a glance, scrolling down (on a film/ TV page), whereas now it just looks a confusing mess. Not user friendly for mobile users. Looks more like a student's messy mood board than a finished, professional webpage. It's just frustrating and confusing. 

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80 Points

2 m ago

Is the new look imdb.com still in Beta test because I am finding some problems? In the old version, if I wanted to go to a specific episode of a TV show (so long as there were no more than 8 or 9 seasons), I could just click on the number for which season I wanted and scroll down to which episode I wanted. With the new version, when I click episode list, it automatically takes me to the last season with a drop down menu to select which season you want. The trouble is, that drop down menu doesn't always work. On Thursday, I wanted to look at the cast list of an episode of season 4 of The Big Bang Theory and the drop down menu wouldn't allow it. I had to go to season 3, scroll down to the bottom of the episode list and click season 4. I do like the increased size of print in cast list for top cast, but that doesn't give the full cast list and the print goes back to normal size when you go to it.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Is the new look still in Beta test?

Employee

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@PJB75 Thanks for the feedback.  You should be able to access all seasons from the "Seasons" menu. From https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898266/ please see:

Hope this helps. 

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80 Points

@Col_Needham

As I said in my comment, that drop down menu doesn't always work. Even before the change over, I was having problems with it. A far better, user friendly option would be having a list of season numbers where the Episode Guide link is so that people have the option of clicking on which season they want instead of clicking the episode guide link (which always take you to the last season) and having to use the drop down menu.

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434 Points

@PJB75

I found out you have to wait until the whole page is loaded before clicking the dropdown menu. Maybe they could put the script to the head of the page instead of the footer...

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434 Points

2 m ago

After they destroyed the last old format version on Edge too, I changed to the reference view. It looks ancient and a bit unformatted, but I get all the information I need and the page doesn't load eternally. With big movie productions you have to scroll too, but it's way more useful than the bloated new „title page experience“.

(as stated before a dozen times)

Just go to your profile > (Preferences) Content Settings > Contributors: check the box for reverence view

It would be great though to have an option to change the layout to one's preferences - what to show (pictures/no pictures; videos/no videos; what content/which categories you want to see in general; black or white layout or something in between)... But I think that's too much to ask. Though asking still is for free.

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3K Points

@tv_6ed65i969yx75 

This layout?

Yes, it was great layout, fast, so simple to use and easy to navigate.

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202 Points

@tv_6ed65i969yx75 The reference view helps, but it also removes some functionality like lists among other stuff. It's like choosing between holes in your right sock or slightly smaller holes in your left sock. Either way it's gonna be a bad time.

linux_lad

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@Saar

I agree. The reference view includes at least a dozen pages of non-relevant and non-interesting information that I would have to scroll through, things are shifted to different places which takes some adjustment on locating them, and then it lacks the "more like this" which I personally find it useful and it is only available in the atrocious normal view.  

Champion

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I'll check the reference view, thanks for the info. I have been looking for the fastest way to avoid the titles main page since the change was done. 

Champion

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Its not ideal and I miss the polls at the sidebar, but it is much better. I'll use it until they change the main title pages, or live it forever if they don't. 

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70 Points

2 m ago

Terrible design. Not intuitive in any way. How can I get the old version back please?

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70 Points

2 m ago

Why if it wasn't broke did you make worse????  This is a horror.  Takes more than twice what it did to just rate show.  They trimming the fat,not add more junk!!

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Put it back the way it was!!!!

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92 Points

2 m ago

This is surely going to drive data usage up for mobile users.  May cause increased fees for heavy users who have minimal data plans.

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80 Points

2 m ago

Two bugs in the new IMDB: 1) can no longer scroll through the large, sharp photos of the cast members; 2) if I enlarge the screen to better read it, the words are not reorganized to fit the screen, so I must SCROLL BACK & FORTH to read it.  Both of these bugs were NOT present in the previous version and MUST be fixed.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled TWO FEATURES NO LONGER WORK

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72 Points

2 m ago

It looks crap, confusing and i there was nothing wrong with teh old version. If something isn't broke, just don't fix it. At least give us the option to have the original way instead of this mess

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202 Points

2 m ago

I'd like to thank IMDb for making their user experience so bad it pushed me to find a better alternative. xD

I just exported all my lists and took me just a few minutes (navigate to lists: Click the 3 dot option button. In Watchlist head to the bottom. Export as CSV). Better do it before IMDb makes it difficult to do (to keep people from leaving). I don't trust that IMDb have the users' interests in mind when making decisions and don't think it'll become better.

Alternatives (has more or less what IMDb offers):
Simkl.com - Nice page, has dark mode. App looks great. Actively takes feedback from users (via UserVoice)! Shows IMDb rating. Nice "want to watch"/"have watched" list system (and "not interested" button). Can automatically track what you're watching. App and extension support/integration (seems to go deeper than TMDb). Has ads (can be blocked or paid to be removed). I have a feeling Simkl will continue to improve. Respectable library size.

Themoviedb.org - possibly has more movies than IMDb (less TV series and non-movie videos). The most familiar to IMDb users (but with better UI). There are apps, I think some of them are unofficial? Community driven and impressively well-covered information. No dark mode. Shows where you can stream or buy and has country-specific information for streaming services (works well for my country!) with price comparison. Alternative titles and translations. There's app support/integrations. E.g. Plex gets their info from TMDb. Also, it has a message board that long-time IMDb users should feel at home in.

Reelgood.com - Nice page, has dark mode. App looks good. Streaming service integration, shows IMDb rating, "have seen/want to see" buttons, "love/like/dislike buttons", shows where it streams (US and UK only it seems). Integration with other services. Pay to remove ads (or block). Seems well-updated. The UI seems really good, seemingly considerably smaller library size. It's just statistics, it might have everything relevant for you so don't write it off.

Thoughts:
TMDb looks to have the best information (country-specific works well!). Users/contributers are active. Site founder and mods are actively contributing. Support forum isn't very active, so I'm not sure how active the site development is (might be wrong). I miss some features from the other sites although TMDb has a lot of media and info.

Simkl has a comparable library size although a bit smaller than TMDb (might not matter, might simply lack things like YouTube/short videos and old/rare titles). It seem to be ahead in terms of apps and neat web features. The site and app is really good, the community feedback/engagement is compelling. 

Reelgood seems to have the smallest library of the 3. It seems to have a lot of the same strengths as Simkl, though, so I wouldn't write it off necessarily. The web site have some really good stuff going for it.

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Simkl and Reelgood are bigger departures in terms of what you are used to from IMDb, some people prefer something familiar. Others are happy to try different style UIs.

You should judge for yourself. Give them a try yourself. In the end it depends upon what you are looking for. Discussion? Automation? Apps/integration? Library size? IMDb-parity? There's stuff I love about all these 3 sites.


It's more productive to provide feedback to somebody that actually listens and improve. These alternatives already seem like a better place than IMDb depending on what you look for. So may my research be useful for others as well.

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momur

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@Saar Thanks for breaking down the alternatives. I'd also add that TMDb also has community message boards much like IMDb's old ones which many might also consider a point in TMDb's favour since this update seems to have reopened that old wound for quite a few people judging by this thread - and on a sidenote, if any are looking specifically for message boards on films, I'd personally recommend moviechat.org since it's virtually identical to the old IMDb boards (and I believe a lot of the older conversations were directly imported from the IMDb message boards before they shut down).

All in all, I think that if people are looking for a viable alternative, TMDb is probably the closest in terms of user experience to the pre-update IMDb; it's nowhere near perfect by any means, but it is certainly more tolerable in terms of aesthetics and user-friendliness than post-update IMDb currently is.

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202 Points

@momur Great input! Agree with your post in all its entirety.

I want to note once again that people should make up their own mind as everyone have different needs and preferences. While I tried my best at being accurately informative, the write-up probably has its fair share of flaws and I likely missed some things. So feel free to correct me or add your thoughts, anyone. :)

I updated the post to make it more readable and added your input. It's still a mess but it's better now.

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linux_lad

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738 Points

@Saar

The only time/reason I use IMDB is if/when some sites reference them via a link, but most of them have been adding others like thetvdb and tvmaze which I have been using more often; however, with this new design, IMDB will now be my last choice. 

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72 Points

@Saar Thank you very much for this informative post! I had no idea I could export my lists and import to another site. Now I don't need to use imdb ever again! Smkl seems like a good alternative. Thanks again!

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200 Points

2 m ago

As of July 1 all IMDb title pages and the main page www.imdb.com are locked into displaying the godawful mobile view, and there is no longer a link at the bottom of the page to "view full site" to use the normal desktop site.

Manually adding "mode=desktop" to the url (which is what the "view full site" link does) has no effect. Choosing "request desktop site" from your browser also does nothing.

Name pages and all sub-pages off the main title page are unaffected, as their mobile pages still have the "view full site" link which works fine.

The only workaround is if you have an account (most viewers don't), you can set title pages to "reference view", which does get you the desktop site (and no ads which is nice), but this page style is difficult to navigate, for instance to sub-pages, and there are some features and links lacking.

This needs to be fixed pronto.

Oh, and it would be nice if there were a "default view" setting in our account, so we don't have to constantly scroll to the bottom and click that "view full site" link every time (major hassle). Not every browser has site-individual settings to do this.

But it seems like IMDb is trying to defeat our browsers and force mobile view, just for title pages (and the imdb main page) for some idiotic reason. Stop trying to control us. Many of us don't want mobile views on websites, even if we're using a mobile device, and this is a nasty trend that many websites force on us now.

We want to see the Internet the way it was meant to be seen. No more "optimized" for our sucky viewing displeasure!

Unless we ASK for it.

Of course, IMDb may just have created this bug inadvertently, in trying to promote their "new and improved" imdb mobile view, but these ideas are NEVER an improvement. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and wait for you to fix this.

Meanwhile, I'll use reference view, and encourage everyone to do the same, and IMDb can lose oodles of advertising dollars.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled IMDb locked to horrible mobile site

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60 Points

2 m ago

Don't like the new design.  Don't like the dark background and white letters.   Much more difficult to find/get to the real information about the movie I'm interested in, seems to be geared towards giving us previews, ads, pictures, etc.  I can see previews and trailers elsewhere if I wanted to.  Disappointing -- more so because there is no button to return to the previous style.

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76 Points

2 m ago

I hate it. I am not a millenial, I use 2 27" displays. Not a Phone. Make a separate logon for millenials/phones.

momur

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634 Points

@HelgeH I hate to nitpick but I have a suspicion you're confusing Millennials/Gen Ys (who were born between 1981-1996) with Gen Zs (who were born between 1997-2012ish) - the very youngest Millennials are now about 25 years old and the oldest are or will be turning 40 this year and statistically as a generation we still tend to skew towards using desktops rather than phones. Gen Zs are now the ones in their teens to mid-20s and are likely the ones being catered to with this particular update. Though since the new layout makes the site look just as awful on a mobile as it does on a desktop, I think it's somewhat failed at that.

Sincerely, a Millennial tired of having their generation be blamed for everything, up to and including pointless and ugly changes to website layouts.

DogRiver

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1.3K Points

@HelgeH I'm a millennial and I despise this new layout. I use only the desktop version for IMDb. I would definitely say they're trying to attract Instagram/TikTok obsessed Gen Z. I agree with @momur.

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@DogRiver Millennial here. 3 monitor PC setup. Definitely don't fit the stereotype. I don't think age/target group is the explanation.

The problem is the lazy Apple-style simplified and minimalistic GUI design nowadays. They try to push the minimalistic and modern basic look further and further. As a result functionality and productivity is sacrificed. There's a notion of "clutter = ugly". What they forget is that you can still make it pretty while making a power user UI. Coding is more accessible than it have ever been so you've got all sorts of random people making this stuff. It's definitely not reserved for people who are passionate about it and are power users themselves.

UI design is like furnature design. Making something pretty is easy. Now, make it pretty while also being functional, practical, comfortable, affordable, manufacturable, sustainable and durable. The same principles applies to basically any product design and problem-solving. People also tend to disregard features and aspects that they themselves aren't using.

These thigs aren't young-generation things. Just look at how inefficient and slow older generations are when using a PC or phone. Not taking advantage of shortcuts, advanced features or better ways to do things. Young generations will adopt a powerful UI as long as it's intuitive and effort-less. The path of least resistance.

So developers saying "most users don't use advanced features" haven't designed them well enough.

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For those who might not have thought about it, a Millennial is much more likely to have had (or still have) a library card than a Gen Z person has. That's pretty much what Millennials represent, destined to be the only surviving humans with any actual memory of the second millennium, particularly of course the twentieth century, when the Internet was invented, before being subject to reinvention. All of that out of the way, I do wonder how many Gen Z folks have any genuine appreciation for this IMDb title page redesign. I think that they may simply go along with it without really scrutinizing anything, or simply live with the pain, trying not to be "whiny" like Millennials. Haha.

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1.4K Points

2 m ago

Absolutely hate the new version of IMDB. Don't fix something that ain't broke!

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64 Points

2 m ago

Hello, 

- Why now there are two ways to add a movie to the watchlist?

- Why custom list options have moved to the other part of the screen?

- Why would you put "As" against every role listed?

- Why the new layout looks like a flattened pancake?

This is a downgrade for UI. Very sad. This makes me want use IMDB as little as possible.

Employee

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@USernowready Thanks for the feedback. Please can you explain your comment further: "Why would you put "As" against every role listed?" and provide an example or two of the problem you are seeing?