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INTRODUCING: Updated IMDb.com homepage experience



The new homepage is designed to help IMDb customers find what to watch right now, tonight, or this weekend — and where to find the best movies and TV shows for them, whether in theaters, on TV, or across a variety of streaming services (including IMDb TV, Prime Video, HBO, Starz, Showtime, Acorn TV, and PBS). Customers will benefit from a new recommendation engine that leverages implicit and explicit behavior to offer relevant and timely suggestions.

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled How do I go back to the "old" IMDb layout from a couple weeks ago? I do NOT like....

How do I go back to the "old" IMDb layout from a couple weeks ago?  I do NOT like this new screen layout!

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You can't.

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I was just thinking: who is gonna go through this stupid homepage to give a rating to, say, a Godard movie? All the site dynamics are going to change. And it will lose a lot of users. 

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Yep, it sure will

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I had never been a loyal IMDB user, made an account or felt like I had stake in it or any kind of community. But IMDB was reliable and organized for when I needed it. This new look is awful. I only signed in/up to express my total dissatisfaction and will be typing in rotten tomatoes into google for the foreseeable future when I need to get what I want. Tragic, whoever made the choice for this change, tragic.

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IMDb is still the best, though. Right?

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Nope! I'll find a better site to do my film research. I already have and it works for me the same way it did with IMDb. It may take more time, but at least it doesn't make me as sad seeing their abominable homepage and giant ads that take up 1/3 of the screen.

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Research? No person would ever seriously use only one website for that purpose. For most of the movies that have ever been published, there is no one-stop shop for information about them. The Internet itself/overall may not even suffice as such a shop, as significant amounts of information are offline or stored in privileged-access electronic databases. If IMDb is not the best in regards to the generality of tracking movies, television episodes, commercial advertisements and video games, then it is clearly the most comprehensive. There are quite a number of finer movie databases, but they are far less comprehensive about tracking the totality of moves ever published in the world.

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IMDb was basically a one-stop shop for me when it came to researching films, even with the many mistakes I found there and corrected. Are you calling me an idiot for using IMDb for that purpose? Many other users (not customers) used the site for the very same purpose. Are they all idiots? I think not!

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I'm not sure that "unserious" translates to "idiotic".

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Maybe not to your "intellectual" mind, but to us common folk, it does.

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That may be a fair point, as I've never exactly thought of the many times that I watched a movie and proceeded to have a look at the IMDb title page for it as "research". Vudu (right on a set top box or a mobile device) can also be used for that purpose, but to a much lesser extent. I rarely ever used the IMDb homepage for reception of news. That kind of stuff automatically comes to me via email (including IMDb editors' letters), chat, web surfing or word of mouth. To me, the "research" has always been the effort to fill gaps and eliminate inconsistencies in the IMDb data or, for that matter, Wikipedia articles, Fandom articles, GameSpot FAQs and so forth, all these crowd-sourced archives/catalogs. I lean toward assuming that Internet-using "common folk" including teenagers understand this. In secondary school (be it middle, high, junior high or senior high), most students will develop a particular idea about what research constitutes. But of course there is always room for not-so-narrow, not-so-literal uses of a word.

So, in what ways does the near-lack of an IMDb homepage affect anybody's film research or film intel-gathering? Seems like it would impact studies of IMDb culture, if there is such a thing, above all else. All of the information about the movies, television series, video games, music videos, television spots, celebrities, actors, singers, directors, producers, storytellers, musicians, cinematographers, choreographers, grips, boom operators, script supervisors, stunt performers, set designers, prop designers, wardrobe designers, make-up artists, effects technicians, scene editors, studio executives, talent representatives and corporate brands is still intact.

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I use to use IMDb to "research" films for my film review website, which I have been running for over 20 years. It has helped me a lot with character names and the actor's and director's other credits. I also used the homepage to read the newest news, whether it be Top news, Movie news, TV news of Celebrity news. I use the word "use" because IMDb changed the site from a reader's site to a viewer's site, making it much more difficult to find the stuff I used every day. I'm an ex-member. I threw away my 25-year-old login and refuse to go on IMDb any more. It's my choice because it is apparent they don't care for readers any more. They care about customers that will buy things. That's my POV and I'm sticking with it. No amount of psycho-babble is going to change my mind.

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will be typing in rotten tomatoes into google

Just out of curiosity because I know a lot of people do this and I really don't get it: why don't you directly go to Rotten Tomatoes? It's more work to go there via Google and you already know where you want to go. Why take a detour?

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will be typing in rotten tomatoes into google

Just out of curiosity because I know a lot of people do this and I really don't get it: why don't you directly go to Rotten Tomatoes? It's more work to go there via Google and you already know where you want to go. Why take a detour?

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That's my POV and I'm sticking with it. No amount of psycho-babble is going to change my mind.

Nobody is saying you have to change your mind. Jeorj simply asked you some questions, nothing more, nothing less. I don't see any need for you to take this this personal.

I personally hate the new homepage and feel IMDb has made itself look ridiculous. A database should focus on data, not on looks. Unfortunately, lots of people (especially younger ones) are more into looking than into reading these days I'm afraid. It's very sad to see that IMDb caters to this, but for me the solution is simple: I don't go to the homepage anymore (I've changed the homepage of my browser from imdb.com to my user profile page on IMDb) and in threads like this, I point out how extremely silly the new IMDb homepage is and will keep on doing so whenever the topic comes up. Apart from that, I still use the information on IMDb because it is still there and it is still as good as it was before this useless change of homepage.

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But how long will it be before IMDb changes every page in their database? You don't make a major change to a homepage without eventually redesigning the rest of the site. Believe it or not, I do take it personally. Jeorj Euler's questions are archaic and meant to elicit responses from people who don't understand what he is trying to convey. Fortunately, I do. When someone asks me the difference between "reply" and "response" to make a point, I get angry, because it seems to me that they are picking apart my posts, word-by-word, to try and make that point. I refuse to accept IMDb's homepage and eventual redesign of their site. And I refuse to put up with posters trying to shame me. I hope you understand this. If not, ask Jeorj. He seems to have an answer to everything, correct or not. This is personal because he made it so.

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That has already been done, and it invariably will be done again.

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But how long will it be before IMDb changes every page in their database?

I sure hope that won't happen. If it does, I'll protest it. And probably start looking elsewhere...

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But how long will it be before IMDb changes every page in their database?

I sure hope that won't happen. If it does, I'll protest it. And probably start looking elsewhere...

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2年前

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled New interface is a joke. Not that you care but you just lost a customer.

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2年前

Obviously the "managers" of IMDb don't read or don't care.  I'll find another site (joblo.com, videoeta.com, etc).

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They do read and they do care, ...

...but not necessarily as much as we would like for them to do these things.

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How about zero times? Not one time in any of the three threads (two of them archived very quickly) has anyone from IMDb addressed the problems we are having with the "improved" look of the homepage. And now IMDb is calling us "customers" rather than "users". That tells me all I need to know about their Amazon mentality. They don't care about us. They just want us to buy something. IMDb was never like that before, but now we are hit with giant ads on every page! Is it any wonder why we are angry?

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There can be no reasonable expectation of an immediate response, especially when only dozens of non-paying subscribers (out of millions of such) are complaining. Rectification of the perceived problem may take several years.

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Really? So all the other times when they immediately helped me with a problem I had was nothing but a fluke? I should have waited years for them to reply to me? Are you serious? WTF?

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So to speak.

Reply? Many times there is no reply, but there is almost always eventually a response, whether addressed to a specific question poser or as a blanket statement/manifesto to the Internet world.

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Now you are telling me the difference between "reply" and "response"? Please! I graduated a long time ago and even I can realize what you are trying to do here. Stop. Just stop. The only person you are shaming is yourself.

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Only to underscore how a response may not manifest on this forum.

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And an answer for everything.

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So?

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See?

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2年前

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Light background on website.

I like that, even though the default theme on the mobile app is dark, there is an option to switch back to a 'light background'. But there isn't one on the website?! At least on the homepage and menu!

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For some reason, some major websites feel that they have to keep changing no matter what, putting on a new look, etc, to keep up with the times. They forget that each time they do this, they force users to change their habits. Not to mention that they're breaking the ages-old adage, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

I can tell by this new look that nobody, not one person responsible for this "improvement" actually uses the imdb homepage. From those who designed it to those who approved it.

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The fact that no one from IMDb has responded to this thread (except to blow their own horn) tells me that something big is going on behind the scenes. As I have said before, their silence is deafening. They know they have a loser on their hands and they know people are leaving (including veteran users like myself), yet they remain silent. Anyone with a brain can see this all is Amazon's doing. They think if they say nothing, we will stop complaining. They don't know me too well and I hope other users keep complaining, even if they archive this thread and point us somewhere new, which they seem fond of doing rather quickly.

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In general, there is a kind of software infrastructure "crisis" afoot, mild no doubt. In certain contexts, it is very hard for scripts, apps and programs designed with a huge number of dependencies (be them in drivers, kernels, platforms, engines, interpreters, plugins and such) to retain a consistent capabilities and behaviors, due to deprecation features within the dependencies themselves across upgrades of those dependencies. The contexts may be narrow, but often they can be crucial enough to cause or contribute to cascade failure effects felt by the entire world sometimes. It may not be enough for hardware, firmware and software to be portable, backwards-compatible and forward-compatible, as it may be very helpful for "standards" to also have those qualities. Occasionally maintaining a consistent scalable design for a website means rebuilding parts of the design from scratch whenever dependency upgrades transcend a paradigm shift. Also, there isn't yet really a reified concept of eternal universal portability for most kinds of widgets that depend upon other widgets.

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Are you sure you are not a shill for IMDb? Is all your techno-speak supposed to make us feel inferior? It doesn't. It is clear to me that it serves another purpose. I guess other "inferior" people can also understand what you are trying to do. If I am wrong, please accept my apology, but it seem to me you are accepting IMDb's changes and trying to make us feel like idiots in the process. It isn't working.

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Exactly, its terrible

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It wouldn't matter if I would be a shill for IMDb. The record will reflect that I'm a much bigger critic than a sycophant or anything close to that. If anybody feels "inferior", then that is his/her own problem. I did not force anybody to feel that way. Apology accepted. In the grand scheme of things, there have been a whole bunch of changes to IMDb that many people did not like, at one time or another, over the decades, and people have threatened to leave or cease contributing, but at no time has there been clarity as to the last straw or the straw that broke the camel's back. Some would even argue that such a time has long passed. Like with anything, we experience pros and cons.

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Jeorj,

After reading more than 100 of your posts over the years, I can attest that you are neither a sycophant or an unbridled critic of IMDb. I've generally found your comments and critics to be thoughtful and constructive.

I personally do not like the current version of the IMDb Home page. I find it more difficult to read and has less functionality. However, I can work around most of the changes.

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I try to adopt the "it could be worse" sentiment (and often things could be better just as well), but not everybody will notice. I do prefer the past designs of the IMDb·Com homepage too, but my feeling is dampened by the fact that I simply do not visit the homepage very often and how much I may be able to get used to future designs over time.

If I understand correctly, every major update to IMDb that has transpired since February of 2017 has been significantly motivated by the overall prospect of making the many ways of interfacing with the database more uniform, and apparently it roughly simply not possible to get the mobile device platforms to function wholly analogous to the desktop computer platform.

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If I understand correctly, every major update to IMDb that has transpired since February of 2017 has been significantly motivated by the overall prospect of making the many ways of interfacing with the database more uniform, and apparently it roughly simply not possible to get the mobile device platforms to function wholly analogous to the desktop computer platform.

I think you're right, but if this is the case, it wouldn't have hurt if IMDb had mentioned this in the announcement of the homepage change.

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If I understand correctly, every major update to IMDb that has transpired since February of 2017 has been significantly motivated by the overall prospect of making the many ways of interfacing with the database more uniform, and apparently it roughly simply not possible to get the mobile device platforms to function wholly analogous to the desktop computer platform.

I think you're right, but if this is the case, it wouldn't have hurt if IMDb had mentioned this in the announcement of the homepage change.

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Unless I was mistaken, yes, that ought to have been done, but company apparently does not feel as though it has to explain its actions.

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but company apparently does not feel as though it has to explain its actions.

Only a bad company would feel that way.

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Well, no company is overseen by saints.
:P

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This new imdb home page is terrible. I've been a loyal user of imdb for many years and i use it multiple times a day, but now i don't even want to open the site. I miss the news section which is hard to access now and i don't like the black background. The whole thing is a serious downgrade and if it isn't fixed i'm gonna be really bummed

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2年前



I fixed it.

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2年前

As nothing will change with this I'm having a hard time finding a decent alternative. I tried rottentomatoes and it's too bloated with their "rankings" on X celebrity, or X director etc. 

I'm just looking for a site that has a simple design, offers current movie/tv news. Anyone else find a decent alternative? 

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If you're looking for news https://theplaylist.net/ is my go to website. Clean, concise and they have a lot of good features. On the database side, https://mubi.com is developing pretty good movie database, although not with the depth of IMDb, but I really like exploring user lists to find films. https://letterboxd.com/ is good for the rating and reviewing side of things. However, as a one-stop shop, IMDb is still the superior site and even with these changes I will keep using.

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I'm using www.letterboxd.com and learning to use www.themoviedb.org

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I appreciate the recs from you two. I will check these sites out. :) 

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2年前

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled how to change IMDB page back.

I get this crappy home page which is video heavy and want to go back to the format that has been in use for many years.  It it is not broke, why change it?

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Because they can.

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2年前

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Please remove the slider!.

Hi, I was very surprised and disappointed when I visited imdb.com recently. The new design with the slider (the posters moving automatically) on top of the side is not the way to go. The reason is that the movement of the slider is disturbing and makes the web site less appealing.

I love imdb.com and I visit it every day. I really hope this slider is not permanent? Maybe you can make an option for registered users to remove it?

thank you

Aegir

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It's permanent. Unfortunately. But don't quit fighting to make it better. That's what they want us to do.

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So the people who actually use IMDB mean nothing to the administrators? I see a lot of protests in the forum. It's a pity. IMDB is one of the oldest websites, it was on the web already in 1990. Before the new design it was the second best site on the web after Wikipedia. Why is User Experience (UX) less important now? Is it money?

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But that is the thing. Which UX? We've already speculated that the new design is to appeal to a majority of the people interfacing with the database. Sadly, the operation comes at the expense of at least somebody's enjoyment or ability to use the site. For whom has this been done? That is the question.

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What is the purpose of the moving slider on top of the main page? This slider ruins the UX

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Wow, I honestly did not think this could not get worse, but now they put automatic video with sound on the front page.

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2年前

IMDB used to be one of the three tabs that opened when I would launch Google Chrome (YouTube and Gmail being the others). Not anymore. I've put a bookmark for the IMDB advanced search page on the Bookmarks bar, which I'll use when I need information. Like Right Said Fred Adelman put it, I come to IMDB primarily to READ news and information; watching the occasional trailer has always been and always will be a secondary consideration.  Thanks to this useless, dog-vomit-ugly attempt at reconstructing the TV Guide in gigantic sidescrolling format for the drooling legions of cell phone zombies you are obviously catering to, IMDB has just lost my everyday clicks.  Signed, another PC user you threw under the bus.

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2年前

This homepage is cell phone friendly. Ok, I give you that. But IT IS NOT for desktop. You guys can't understand that these two things are completely different navigation experiences? Really?? For instance, the images in low resolution are grotesquely ugly on desktop, because of their size. You can't see that?

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I'm old school. I use my cell phone to make phone calls. I never use it to surf the Internet. I could, but why ruin my eyes? I use a desktop and this homepage is also ruining my eyes. With its ugliness!

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2年前

Please bring back the old format, this new black one is just awful looking and a pain to navigate with a real computer... at least give us a way to go back to what we used before that ridiculous update.