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P.S.: What Do These Have In Common?

The list page. - https://www.imdb.com/list/ls023955232/

The answer: the keywords “Nazis Stolen Art”, “Art theft”, and “World War 2”. All these films and shows talk about the various phazes of the story of the Nazis looting and stealing art works. Understand that looting for valuable items, not just artwork, happens in every war. Therefore, not just one single group can be blamed for this. And I can make a poll of movies showing looting during war. But the Nazis were by far the most systematic at stealing art work. And understand, that when considering weather to save lives or artwork, saving lives is far more important.but when they steel and destroyed artwork, they were not just stealing a valuable item monetary. They were stealing culture and history. And by destroying some of it, they were trying to erase history and rewrite it. This subject is still relevant today because of the looting during the Iraq war and ISIS destroying churches, and archeological sites. But for this poll, we shall limit it to artwork, and the Nazis of World War 2. Which of these tells their part of the Nazis stealing the artwork story the best?

(Note: for an unbelievable but funny tv comedy of the 1960’s, [link=tt0058812] had the courage to mention, in one episode, the subject when most television of that period stayed away from it.)

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3 years ago

This was inspired by finally watching “Monuments Men” and I did think of “The Train” when I saw the train station scene. Also, I have seen all three of the first films on this list and the “Hogan’s Heroes” episode.

And I wasn’t kidding. If I had wanted to do a poll of movies showing scenes of looting during wartime, that list would include

- Woman In Gold

- The Train

- Monuments Men

- Schindler's List

- Gone With The Wind

- Shenandoah (1965)

- Empire Of The Sun

- Three Kings
And maybe
-“ Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade” when it makes the sly reference of “Some Of The Finest families in Germany donated” to the bribe to the Sultan - aka, stolen.

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3 years ago

Nazi loot films, didnt know Hogans Heroes touched on subject, Loved The Train & Monuments Men,
More should be told or updated alone for docustories.

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I agree. If you had seen those two, I would suggest seeing “Woman In Gold” too. It not only tells what happened in the war, it tells apart of the story that had happened after the war where some people, through legitimate means, were purchasing artwork they knew was stolen by the Nazis.

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3 years ago

There was also a Simpson episode about it :) 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0778451/?ref_=ttep_ep22

Another member of Grampa Simpson's WWII platoon dies, leaving only him and Mr. Burns. Years earlier, the men stole a number of priceless masterpieces from Nazi Germany, and now Mr. Burns aims to ensure he is the one to inherit them.

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Can you believe added? As I said “Understand that looting for valuable items, not just artwork, happens in every war. Therefore, not just one single group can be blamed for this.”

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3 years ago

Germans were the main ones stealing & then others Post War stole said artifacts from brokers, dealers, etc since 1945.

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And “Woman In Gold” talked about that too.

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3 years ago

Germans had a whole organz devoted to stealing Art from occupied countries called EnRi, or along those lines,

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Let keep this at the political party level please. Nazis . Why? Not all Germans were Nazis. (Also, even though I’m a natural born American citizen, I’m German and Irish by heritage.)
Now back to the subject. Yes, I do agree that the Nazis took the looting of art and precious metals of gold and silver, to a whole new level of low. Even documentary films about the concentration camps, like “Night and Fog”, and “Shoah” talk about the Nazis removing the fillings of the teeth of the prisoners. Thanks to “Monuments Men”, now I know where the fillings ended up. That is what was in the barrel in the mine.

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2 years ago

I was watching a cable show two nights ago called “Hunting Nazi Treasure” and they were talking about subject and it seems that Herman Göring was the biggest thief at stealing art amongst the Nazis. The show confirmed a lot of what was stated in Monuments Men. But with Goering, the story takes a crazy twist. First Goering kept a little black book list of the artwork that he stole and the allies now have that book. But when d-day happened goering saw the writing on the wall for the Nazis and had an underling in charge to smuggle the art collection out of Paris and into Spain and then into Switzerland to ether sell the painting or deposit them in safe deposit Bowes or lockers at the Swiss banks. Now the Swiss say there is no vault holding stolen artwork but remember than the Swiss are bound by their own laws concerning their banks. The twist comes in those laws because the safe deposit boxes and lockers are probably in the name of underling who bought those safe deposit boxes and he didn’t die until 1990. Swiss law says that those vaults and safe deposit boxes or lockers until 60 years after the death of the owner. They can’t look for them until 2050. Now comes the long line of “If” questions like “If he did take out a safe deposit box at a Swiss bank, did he store the paints in that box or was he able to sell them? Is there any artwork in those boxes?” They do know that one of the missing pieces of art, Rapheal’s “Portrait of A Young Man” was listed in Goering’s book and possibly is in that Swiss bank vault “IF” it is. It was the painting that was shown to be burning in the film Monuments Men.