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Mon, Jun 22, 2020 5:41 PM

Poll Suggestion: True American Movie Icons (4th July)

Celebrating the 4th of July, here's a list of characters who represented a little more than the heroic side of their respective movies, they became symbols of what generally make American heroes shine in and beyond the national borders: idealism, persistence, coolness, bravery and a little je-ne-sais-quoi that make us (foreigners) wish for a while that we could belong to the same place.

Which of these American Icons is your number one pick?

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls080329642/

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3 months ago

No Atticus Finch? :)

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Mmmm, I thought of him actually but I'm not sure. He's a hero but do you think of him as a movie icon?

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Don't many peole wish that Atticus Finch was their father? The fact that he's number 1 on AFI's list (I'm embarrassed to point this out to you) proves that he is not just a hero but one of the quintessential American heroes.

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@Elmo I don't know, could be. I fail to see the difference between him and Patton, except one is fictional.

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The fact that he's number 1 on AFI's list (I'm embarrassed to point this out to you) proves that he is not just a hero but one of the quintessential American heroes.

Al,

I agree 1000% that he is a true American hero as far as heroism for the sake of a better America goes, I wasn't questioning the heroism, rather the iconic status. That's what I wrote about him in my review (the opening):

I wasn't yet the movie fan I am today but the first time I saw the American Film Institute's Top 100 heroes and villains, I could recognize almost every name, I expected a few exceptions but certainly not the number one hero: Atticus Finch, played by Gregory Peck, in the adaptation of Harper Lee's Pulitzer-winning "To Kill a Mockingbird". Seriously, who was that dork who had the nerve to be worthier of the first spot than Indiana Jones or James Bond and that I wasn't even familiar with?

And "To Kill a Mockingbird" kept popping up in every AFI list and even on IMDb Top 250, so it was an emergency case in my watch-list of fresh new movie fan etc.  etc.

I do not claim to represent the perspective of the foreign movie lover but honestly, I grew up with many great characters from Hollywood Golden Age, but Atticus Finch never popped up...

Once again, I'll probably add him, just waiting for more suggestions to make one good visit to the list.


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My point wasn't really about heroism either, but that to be voted the number 1 American hero, it not only takes heroism, you also need iconicity. From my own experience, I heard about Atticus Finch (or at least knew vaguely who he was) long before I became a movie buff. Americans may contradict me but I think he's very much an icon in America. The book alone is read by almost everyone in school, and Peck's movie Atticus is what made the story even more famous.

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3 months ago

FYC:

Malcolm X - because there's gotta be a counterbalance to John Wayne and Scarlett O'Hara (yeah I've just seen I Am Not Your Negro...). I don't want want you to make the poll political but the list feels incomplete to me without someone like him.

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Problem is: I pick a real-life character if the cinematic version is as iconic as the real person (preferably more) this is why I picked Patton and not Lincoln or Muhammad Ali, because no matter how great Lewis and Smith were, we still picture the real men when we think of these men.

But I think I'll add him, let me just a time to figure how many real-life Americans are eligible.

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You have a point there.

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American Icons but not really Movie Icons 
  
Neil Armstrong: First Man on the Moon (2012)
Documentary
On the 21st July 1969 Neil Armstrong became the first human being to set foot on another world 
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2625082/reference
  
Neil Armstrong
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0035842/
  
https://www.imdb.com/find?q=Apollo%2011&s=tt
Displaying 200 results for "Apollo 11"
Search category: All Titles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11
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Kitty Hawk: The Wright Brothers' Journey of Invention
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418795/reference
the first successful manned flight.
Orville Wright ... Self (archiveFootage)
Wilbur Wright ... Self (archiveFootage)
Neil Armstrong ... Orville Wright (voice)
John Glenn ... Wilbur Wright (voice)
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The Spirit of St. Louis (1957)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051003/reference
Charles Lindbergh struggles ... to make his New York to Paris flight
the first solo transatlantic crossing.
James Stewart ... Charles Lindbergh
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[ add captions to Images lists ? ]
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/-add-captions-to-images-lists
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3 months ago

  
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James Cagney (1899–1986)
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000010/
One of Hollywood's preeminent male stars of all time
James Cagney Picture
  
Yankee Doodle Dandy (1942)
James Cagney ... George M. Cohan
James Cagney Rosemary DeCamp Walter Huston and Joan Leslie in Yankee Doodle Dandy 1942
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000010/mediaviewer/rm2260572673
  
George M. Cohan (1878–1942)
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0169125/
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3 months ago

  
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Humphrey Bogart (1899–1957)
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000007/

The Maltese Falcon (1941)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033870/reference
Humphrey Bogart ... Samuel Spade

Humphrey Bogart in The Maltese Falcon 1941
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You already have Bogart - can not delete this now

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3 months ago

  
Hey! 15yearsIMDber aka ElMo
  
? ?
  
Are you looking for ...
Actors that are Icons
Real people that are Icons
Actors playing characters of real people that are Icons
Actors playing characters of Not real people that are Icons
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3 months ago

  
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Pirates of Silicon Valley (1999)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0168122/reference
Biography, Drama
History of Apple and Microsoft.
Noah Wyle ... Steve Jobs
Anthony Michael Hall ... Bill Gates
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Steve Jobs (2015)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2080374/reference
Biography, Drama 
Steve Jobs is largely the iconic name and face of Apple Computers, a company he co-founded. 
Michael Fassbender ... Steve Jobs
  
Steve Jobs (1955–2011)
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0423418/
Co-founded Apple Computer Inc. in 1977 with Steve Wozniak. 
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Bill Gates 
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0309540/
American entrepreneur, business mogul, investor, philanthropist, 
and widely known as one of the most richest and influential people in the world.
Bill Gates met Steve Ballmer whom would soon join Gates 
in his venture to start his own company, Microsoft.
Has a measured IQ of 160, signifying genius intelligence.
His net worth as of November 2016 is 81.1 billion.


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3 months ago

ElMo,

Did you have something more to write for 10 of 23?
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls080329642/mediaviewer/rm1158453248
Because there's gotta be

Do you consider this suggestion complete?

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I consider it complete but I can update in one hour or two, if possible.

I considered the other suggestions but they don't really work, it's not about American icons but movie icons who happen to be American (I'm not even sure I should include Superman).

Chuck Yeager is an American icon but it's not like there are many movie-related posters of him, not like Rocky or Tom Cruise in "Top Gun".  Some would argue that there are many posters of Denzel Washington as "Malcolm X" but then again, the true fans of Malcolm X will have real pictures of him. 

The character (even real-life person) must owe the iconic status to a movie. (It's a close call for Superman who's a comic-book icon but I'm convinced Christopher Reeve contributed a big deal to his legacy)

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Last option may need a correction:

Because there's got AFI's number one hero!

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Thanks

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3 months ago

movie icons who happen to be American - I have only just now understood what you're saying. American movie icons, isn't there a place for Cary Grant?
In North by Northwest
Or in Bringing Up Baby