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Poll Suggestion: The Most Famous Deaths Throughout History

Life and death is a common thing to everyone who has ever lived. But, some deaths lives more that the death itself, even some made a different and changes the way of people life right now. Some stand out, either due to the life of the person or because of the way they died. Here is the list of famous death that will remembered throughout history. Whose death do you think the most influential? 

"If a man has not discovered something that he will die for, he isn't fit to live." Martin Luther King, Jr.

Easter is near, so I guess this is fit for the timing.

List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls094356327/

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For your consideration: Mahatma Gandhi, who was assassinated only months after India gained independence. The assassination was depicted in Gandhi (1982).

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Added, thanks

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FYC:
Grace Kelly

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PRINCESS GRACE`S FATAL CRASH: HER DAUGHTER`S ACCOUNT
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1989-10-23-8901240679-story.html

On Sept. 13, 1982, Princess Grace of Monaco was killed when the car she was driving somersaulted over a cliff. ...

... The accident that claimed the life of the former Grace Kelly captured the attention of the world. Nearly 100 million people watched the funeral of the former American movie star on Saturday, Sept. 18: Her husband, Prince Rainier, in his uniform, shattered with grief, his oldest child, Caroline, veiled in black, reaching out to touch him. His son, Albert, walked at his side, holding his father`s arm. ...

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She's in thanks

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 Silitonga,

Thank you for adding Grace Kelly, Princess of Monaco.

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Aeschylus. It has been said that he died when an eagle dropped a tortoise on his bald dome, mistaking it for a rock. (Although his Wikipedia page notes "this story may be legendary and due to a misunderstanding of the iconography on Aeschylus's tomb.")

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I think he's "less famous" compare to other on the list. Maybe you could suggest another? 

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Fair enough. I'll chime in again if any others come to mind.

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Added Caesar, Joan of Arc already in the list, thanks.
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FYC:

Grigori Rasputin: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1391270/mediaviewer/rm119035904

Died from drowning after being unsuccessfully poisoned, shot 3 times and beaten

Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria:https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073660/mediaviewer/rm1596606208

Assassinated at Sarajevo, considered as the cause of World War I

James A. Garfield:
 
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6144021/mediaviewer/rm320943104
Second  US president to be assassinated

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Rasputin and Ferdinand added, minus Garfield. Great suggestions, thanks.
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I don't understand why James Garfield isn't included, he was president of the US when assassinated. You already included Lincoln and JFK for the same reasons.

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The impact of his death not as strong as Lincoln and JFK. But, if I missed something here, about Garfield, I could just added him.

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cinephile, wanted to suggest Rasputin as well. It takes a special kind of death to coin a new term which means having a long protracted and torturous death. 

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Four presidents of the United States have been assassnated. 1) Abraham Lincoln (1865), 2)James A. Garfield (1881), 3)  William McKinley (1901), and 4) John F. Kennedy (1963).

There are also conspiracy theories that Zachary Taylor (1850) and Warren G. Harding (1923) were send to an early grave by poisoning. 

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Good one, but I think his death not really have a great impact.

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but it is a famous death

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Many saints have famous death but not so much for grater impact. If you can find another I'd be happy to add them.

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I pick Marie Antoinette alone because she's far more popular than his husband Louis XVI.

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Both of them in.

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Silitonga,

For your consideration:
Jayne Mansfield

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0543790/bio
While traveling from a nightclub in Biloxi, Mississippi and 30 miles
from New Orleans to where she was to be on television the following day,
she was killed instantly on Highway 90 in Slidell, Louisiana in a car
crash in the early hours of June 29, 1967, when the car in which she was
riding slammed into the back of a semi-tractor trailer truck that had
stopped due to a truck in front of the tractor trailer that was spraying
for bugs. Her car went under the truck at nearly 80 miles per hour. Her
boyfriend Samuel Brody and their driver Ronnie Harrison, were also
killed. The damage to the car was so bad that the engine was twisted
sideways. She was not, however, decapitated, as had long been
misreported. She was 34 years old.

Mansfield's funeral was on
July 3, 1967 and hundreds of people lined the main street of Pen Argyl
for Mansfield's funeral, a small private ceremony at Fairview Cemetery
in Plainfield (outside Pen Argyl), Pennsylvania (where her father was
also buried), attended by her family. The only ex-husband to attend was
Mickey Hargitay. Her final film, Single Room Furnished
(1966), was released the following year. In 2000, Mansfield's 97 year
old mother, Mrs. Vera Peers, was interred alongside Mansfield.

Mariska Hargitay is the daughter of Jayne Mansfield and Mickey Hargitay. In June 1967, she and her two brothers were asleep in the back seat of a
car when it smashed into the back of a trailer truck instantly killing
her mother (Jayne Mansfield), the driver and Mansfield's boyfriend, attorney Sam Brody. Miraculously, the three children escaped with minor injuries.

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/28155/how-jayne-mansfield-changed-design-tractor-trailers
Shortly thereafter, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
made it mandatory for all semi truck trailers to be fitted with
under-ride bars, also called DOT bars or "Mansfield bars." The steel bar hangs from back of the cargo area and is designed to stop a car before it rolls underneath the trailer.

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This could work. I've added her. Thanks

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I have a problem with the word "influential".

Everything in your intro seems to lead to the question "which death is the most memorable?" or "which death is the most iconic or legendary?" but influential is a word that says what it says, it influenced something or someone, and if we're asking which one is the most influential, so we're talking about 'great deaths' that changed the course of history, not deaths that built a legend and made an icon out of the dead.

Marilyn Monroe's death was memorable, JFK too but is there a more devastating and influential death in movie's history than the assassination of Archduke François Ferdinand (and his wife) in 1914?


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the question says "famous death." Prince had a famous death, but it was not as influential as the assassinations of world leaders, and more people today know that Prince died that who Charles I was! Though the beheading of an English Monarch was much more influential than Prince's death will ever be.

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I think "influential" is a higher word that "famous". A famous person would not definite has influence but an influential person must be a famous one.

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But we're mixing entertainment with historical figures... what can be more influential than what impacted history?

Another problem is that you list the deaths of influential people... but we are talking about influential deaths.. the death has to be the influential element not the celebrity's achievement.

I think you have good material for a two-part poll but right now this list feels like a bag of oranges and apples :)

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Would "significant" be a better word to use? I feel that it encompasses all the aspects mentioned.

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Changed the question to "significant" 

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Good one. Thanks

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"Life and death is a common thing for everyone who has ever lived."
Wait! Everyone dies?! Gah! No spoilers!

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Julius Caesar
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045943/mediaviewer/rm1389307904
The Romanov family
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067483/mediaviewer/rm2667978496

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Thanks for the correction.

I hate to spoil you but death is the only thing and everybody knows but never experience in life LOL

... and I have to halt about The Romanov family
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FYC:

Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061418/mediaviewer/rm738276352

Apparently, 50 000 people went to Bonnie's funeral.

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Going to halt them for awhile.

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Please consider some edits to your text:

Life and death is a common thing for everyone who has ever lived. But some deaths live longer that the death itself, and some made a difference and changed the way people live right now. Some stand out, either due to the life of the person or because of the way they died. Here is the list of famous deaths that will remembered throughout history. Whose death do you think the most influential? 

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#1: Death by crucifixion
#3: Activism and glamour made her one of the
#4: an estimate of 50 million people.
#9: a selfless missionary of charity.
#12:  Death by overdose.
#14: Died by fatal car crash.
#18:  he was shot four times in the back at close range
#19: and drug use ...  female artist of all time and she remains one of the
#21:  Her car crashed at high speed

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Many corrections thanks, edit them all

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FYC:

  • Bruce Lee
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    In the fall of 1972, Warner Bros offered Lee 'Enter the Dragon', the first of his films to be co-produced by a major American studio. Expectations were high when filming began in Hong Kong in January 1973. But on July 20, 1973, just six days before 'Enter the Dragonwas set to be released, Bruce Lee died, suddenly and mysteriously. Perhaps in part because of that, Enter the Dragon became one of the highest-grossing films of 1973 and fueled a martial arts craze in the U.S. But how could a young man at the peak of physical fitness die so suddenly and inexplicably? That question, almost as much as his kung fu skills, has defined Bruce Lee's stardom.
    Almost immediately, the rumor mill began running overtime: Hong Kong triads, a family curse, and even poisoning were all blamed for his death. That the married star had died in the house of his secret girlfriend, Betty Ting, fueled more rumors. More speculation surfaced in 1993 when Lee's actor son Brandon Lee died after being shot by a faulty prop gun on the set of The Crow.

    The officials say Lee's death was caused by cerebral edema, a swelling of the brain caused by excess fluid. Although Lee's brain had swelled nearly 13 percent, the coroner found no evidence of external injury.


  • Saddam Hussein
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    The execution of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein took place on Saturday, 30 December 2006. Saddam was sentenced to death by hanging, after being convicted of crimes against humanity by the Iraqi Special Tribunal for the murder of 148 Iraqi Shi'ites in the town of Dujail in 1982, in retaliation for an assassination attempt against him.

    While officially released footage of the event stopped short of showing the actual execution, an amateur filmed a video using a phone camera from a staircase leading up to the gallows surface contained low-quality footage of the entire hanging. The amateur footage, unlike the official footage, included sound; witnesses could be heard taunting Saddam at the gallows. That video became the most viral video in Iraq to date.


  • Paul Walker
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    On November 10, 2013, Paul and his friend Roger Rodas were leaving Walker's charity Reach Out Worldwide for victims of Typhoon Haiyan when their vehicle crashed. Rodas was behind the wheel and Walker was the passenger. The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department declared both victims dead at the scene of the accident.

    With all the success surrounding Furious 7, no one has forgotten Paul Walker's untimely passing. His buddy Vin Diesel has made sure of that, honoring Paul's memory in many different ways since his death. 


  • Sharon Tate
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    In an event that marked the end of the ‘60s era of peace and love for many, the world was shocked when up-and-coming actress Sharon Tate was stabbed to death while nine months pregnant. Tate was found dead in her Los Angeles home, alongside five other bodies, on August 9th, 1969.

    In the ensuing weeks, it would emerge Tate had been a victim of the Manson family cult. The cult members, acting under the instructions of Charles Manson, were committing murders in order to start the apocalyptic race war Manson believed was coming.

    The deaths were incredibly shocking to the general public due to the seemingly random nature of the attack and the gruesome details. Tate had been stabbed multiple times and there was an “X” cut into her stomach. The killers had written words like “Pig” and “Helter Skelter” on the walls using the blood of the victims.

    The tragedy led to mass paranoia in Hollywood and was one of several tragic events that led to a general disillusionment with the ‘60s counterculture.


  • Mark Twain
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    Mark Twain (November 30, 1835 – April 21, 1910), or Samuel Langhorne Clemens, as he was born, was a prominent author and humorist. His two best-known works are The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. He also gave lectures full of satire and wit which earned acclaim and invitations to speak to all sorts of people from industrialists to royalty. Clemens made plenty of money from his works, both written and oral, and chose to invest it in ventures, most of which failed miserably. The best known of these is the Paige Compositor, which was a complicated mechanical typesetter that failed. These resulted in Clemens filing bankruptcy. However, a man of integrity, Clemens chose, once his financial troubles were overcome, to pay back in full all of his previous creditors.
    Clemens made his entrance into this world less than two weeks after Halley’s Comet appeared in the sky. In 1909, he was heard to say, “I came in with Halley’s Comet in 1835. It is coming again next year, and I expect to go out with it. It will be the greatest disappointment of my life if I don’t go out with Halley’s Comet. The Almighty has said, no doubt: ‘Now here are these two unaccountable freaks; they came in together, they must go out together.'” Sure enough, at age 74, the day after Halley’s Comet returned, Clemens, exited this world via heart attack.


  • Amelia Earhart
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    Amelia Earhart (July 24, 1897 – July 2, 1937) is best known for her mysterious disappearance. One of the first female aviators, Earhart was the first woman to fly alone across the Atlantic. She bought her first airplane in 1921 – a two-seater that she named “The Canary.” She piloted her first flight across the Atlantic with two men. They left Newfoundland on June 17, 1928, flew 21 hours, and successfully landed in Wales. During her career in flying, she set many records.
    In 1937, Earhart attempted to circumnavigate the globe in flight. However, somewhere in the area of Howland Island, Earhart and her plane disappeared. This date is listed as the date of her death, even though no evidence has ever been found to confirm or deny this. One theory is that she landed at Gardner Island, and to this day, they are still examining the atoll in an attempt to discover the truth.


  • Archduke Franz Ferdinand
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    The assassination of Franz Ferdinand on June 28, 1914, in Sarajevo was carried out by a 19-year-old man named Gavrilo Princip. He belonged to a group of assassins created and armed by the Black Hand. Franz Ferdinand and his wife, Sophie, were planning to go to the hospital to see some of their people who had been injured earlier in the day by a grenade. Their driver had not been informed, and the motorcade had to turn around. The line of cars paused at one point. Princip who was across the street at a cafe saw an opportunity, walked across the street, and shot Sophie in the abdomen, and Franz Ferdinand in the neck. Franz lived several more minutes, entreating his wife to live for their children, but both died before they could reach the hospital.

    Franz Ferdinand (December 18, 1863 – June 28, 1914) was an Archduke of Austria and Royal Prince of Hungary and Bohemia. At age 11, the death of his cousin Duke Francis V resulted in Franz Ferdinand being named his heir as long as he would add “Este” to his name. This made Franz Ferdinand one of the richest men in Austria. The death of another cousin fourteen years later changed his life again – the Crown Prince Rudolf committed suicide, making Franz Ferdinand’s father the heir to the throne. Seven years later, his father, Karl Ludwig died of typhoid fever, making Franz Ferdinand the heir presumptive.

    This, along with other events, led to the beginning of World War I, which commenced about a month later. The assassination of Franz Ferdinand is often pointed to as the main event that caused World War I.


  • Queen Min
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    Queen Min of Korea (October 19, 1851 – October 8, 1895) who was also known as Empress Myeongseong was officially the first wife of King Gojong, who was the 26th king in Korea’s Joseon dynasty. She worked hard to block the influence of Japan in Korea, in part by forging stronger alliances with Russia. Because of this work, a group of Japanese Ronins was sent to assassinate her. These assassins were aided by the Hullyeondae Regiment, which overpowered the Royal Guards and allowed the Ronins to infiltrate the palace. They killed three women who may have been the queen, and the attack was said to have been brutal and violent. After confirming the identity of the deceased Empress, they burned her corpse and scattered the ashes.
    The result of this atrocity led to a deep-seated animosity toward Japan throughout Korea, which persists even to this day.
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Franz Ferdinand is already on the list, but I suggested an image of Christopher Plummer because is profile doesn't contain any of him.

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Hogwash. Franz Ferdinand isn't on the list.



The archduke is a poser.

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I'm a history buff and I've always had a sort of morbid fascination for the story of Franz Ferdinand, the guy was in what he thought to be a routine political visite in some godforsaken country (in his mind I mean) and there he gets shot and becomes the first victim of one of the deadliest war ever... but one shouldn't trivialize that especially when you have his poor wife as a collateral damage, poor woman was pregnant and (unless I'm wrong) she tried to protect her husband and got shot herself. Very sad ending ... that was only the beginning.

Anyway, I can't think of a more influential death.

There was a similar victim in France, politician Jean Jaurès who tried to warn people against the war, he was a true pacifist but he got shot on July 31st, accelerating France's entrance in the war.

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Added Hussein and Earhart, thanks.

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@ElMo I'm intrigued about this story. Have you seen The Assassination at Sarajevo? Or do you have another movie reference about the event?

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Well, I can tell you most of what I've learned in history came from outta school, I used to watch every documentary about World War I and World War II ("From Nuremberg to Nuremberg"* was my first immersion) but oddly enough, the assassination of Sarajevo never mentioned "details" such as the wife's pregnancy, it took me extra readings especially a great history collection of books from 1972 that was getting all dusty in my grandmother's bookcase.
  
* Vangelis wrote the score, very haunting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTlrWR1r9FU

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Silitonga,

Minor typos:

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Adolf Hitler. Death by suicide. Dictator of Nazi Germany, regime were also responsible for the killing of an estimate of 50 million people.
Adolf Hitler. Death by suicide. Dictator of Nazi Germany, regime was also responsible for the killing of an estimate of 50 million people.

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Abraham Lincoln. Death by assassination, shot at point-blank range in the back of the head. The 16th president of the United States, He preserved the Union, abolished slavery, strengthened the federal government, and modernized the U.S. economy.
Abraham Lincoln. Death by assassination, shot at point-blank range in the back of the head. The 16th president of the United States, he preserved the Union, abolished slavery, strengthened the federal government, and modernized the U.S. economy.

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it went completely underneath it, shearing the top of the car off, and killing the vehicle's three adult passengers almost instantly.
It went completely underneath it, shearing the top of the car off, and killing the vehicle's three adult passengers almost instantly.

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Here is the list of famous deaths that will be remembered throughout history. Whose death do you think is the most significant?

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Thanks corrected them all 

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Silitonga,

Thank you for making the edits.