Live Poll: Ryan Reynolds' Sagas

@urbanemovies​ Done.

@GabrielFox​ You are still missing this WADE WILSON / DEADPOOL title, X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009).

@urbanemovies​ 

I didn't consider him in the list because that WADE WILSON/DEADPOOL from the movie X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE (2009) is another totally different character from the other movies.

@GabrielFox​ different how?

@urbanemovies​ 

The detailed explanation is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wade_Wilson_(film_character)#:~:text=Wade%20Wilson%2C%20also%20known%20as,character%20of%20the%20same%20name. 

In simple words ... They are 2 different characters from 2 different timelines in the multiverse.

@GabrielFox​ I immediately thought that "2 different characters from 2 different timelines in the multiverse" sounds like a good reason to consider them different.

Then, I thought considereding the whole upcoming MCU phase is about the multiverse, what a can of worms you are opening up.

Plus, you don't know the upcoming plots of the MCU movies and some are likely going to be judgement calls to include or omit their alternative timeline or the multiversion of the character.

It seem like you are needlessly making all your saga polls overly complicated, confusing and the standard will be inconsitently applied, no matter how hard you try. IMHO, it would be far easier for you and for the polltakers to understand, if the characters includes all multiverse versions with the caveat that alternate versions of themselves exist.

However, it is really proactive to be thinking about this now. I guarantee that thinking ahead will save you a lot of headaches down the road.

@GabrielFox​ Also, plus every comic book publisher has multiple versions, multiple storylines, multiple universes of same characters and the settings they operate within, so this isn't a one-time deal. This is the norm for superhero characters to have multiple versions, sometimes even within the same movie ie Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021). We have already seen this with Batman too played out on the big screen over decades.

On top of that, characters evolve over time and become different incarnations (based on their comic book origins), so where do you draw the line. On your Mark Ruffalo saga poll suggestion you label his BRUCE BANNER / HULK characters all the same character from The Avengers (2012) to She-Hulk: Attorney at Law (2022).

The Avengers (2012), Iron Man Three (2013), Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015), Thor: Ragnarok (2017), Avengers: Infinity War (2018), Captain Marvel (2019), Avengers: Endgame (2019), Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (2021), and She-Hulk: Attorney at Law (2022)

But, he is two different hulk incarnations in the two movies, starting as Savage Hulk in the earlier titles and evolving to a Professor Hulk incarnation in the later titles.

So, you can see how tricky it is and how easy it is to inconsistently apply the standard you are trying to hold the characters too. You might be trying to be more clear and accurate, instead things become more jumbled and inaccurate. I'm sure there are more examples, but these two are more than enough to make the point.

@urbanemovies​ Point taken.

@urbanemovies​ 

As you said, "two different incarnations of the Hulk", but it's just an evolution of the same character, which we saw and has a continuity in the movies.
If you want me to be precise in detail, the characters I choose for the sagas have to be from the same time space.

@GabrielFox​ My point is not that whether you are correct or not. I fully acknowledge there are different Wade Wilsons. I am saying it is a topic best to be avoided altogether.

There is a lot creative license taken and sometimes the cinematic characters contradict the canon. Speaking to the Hulk, it is like you said with Wade Wilson, they are different in the comics, and they came up with a lame excuse to blend them together in movies.

My point is an equal number of people will agree and disagree with your ommision or inclusion and it is a no-win situation. It is an issue best to be simplified and avoided by saying for the purpose of the poll you are adding the caveat that alternate versions of themselves exist. The poll simply says that it doesn't matter and pools them altogether only for the sake of simplicity, without taking a side. So, you are acknowledging that people may have differing opinions without agreeing with them and still being precise in detail.

@GabrielFox​ Again, I think in both cases, Wade Wilson and the Hulk, there are arguments on both sides. It is better to make the issue "null and void" by including them with the stipulation, you are doing for simplicity's sake and the caveat that alternate versions of themselves exist.

@urbanemovies​ 

I'm looking forward to seeing those movies.

I hope they keep the same essence as the first movie.

@urbanemovies​ Done.

@GabrielFox​ Thanks for fixing, Which one of Ryan Reynolds' sagas is your favorite?

@Pencho15​ Done.