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Sat, Feb 19, 2022 12:43 AM

Live Poll: Ground-Breaking Comic Heroes Before the 1950s

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Far before the 1950s, the first comic strips about heroes were published and many readers were delighted. A new phenomenal kind of story-telling was about to gain a huge fanbase. The artful paintings of the creators helped to understand the powers and qualities of the unusual and extraordinary characters by literally depicting them. It arose to a magic form of art that seduced masses of young and later even old readers - and from today's point of view also the audiences in cinemas.

Today the artwork of the comics is transported to movies by CGI-effects, which enable to show the full virtual power of those comics that seduced so many, in reality-like movies. We take a look at the oldest characters, which set a big stone in motion.

Which of these comic heroes of the 1940s and earlier do you think had the biggest impact on the whole genre or is the most interesting for you? (If you want, you can click the IMDb and Wikipedia links to read more about them.)

Tell us here. __________________________________________________________

For your interest: List of superhero debuts (wikipedia).

All researches for this poll were done according to February 2022

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Movies, TV-series, shorts and animated movies, based on stories, which may be from literature, but surely also have a template in comic releases. The comic it is based on has to be published before the movie, TV-series, short, etc. ... It has to be released before the 1950s. The movies, TV-series, shorts, ... etc. ... can be released at 1950 or later, but as I stated, the comic should be published earlier. The lead character should best be ground-breaking. I stated examples in the first 5 options. The next 10 options I added will be completed, if the idea finds friends. Stories like Tarzan can't be taken into consideration, because at least one movie (or TV-series, etc. ...) existed before the comics. Please do your inquiries properly, otherwise it will be a lot of work to correct. Thank you.

List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls538022904/

Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/Se_veefksgg/

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I am not sure The Rocketeer and Captain Sky would apply...

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@mariojacobs​ 

Depends on the facts if the comic was published before the movie and before 1950. I let TV-Series count, as well as movies. And the movies may be released later than 1950, or close after the comics. Comic strips count as well. Now you can tell me, perhaps. This is a lot about equiring facts from the database and Wikipedia plus eventually alternative sources, which are reliable. It might be that I don't know if another source is reliable, so I tend to use Wikipedia. So please do me the favor and pre-enquire a little, if the comic character does fit. It might prevent a lot of work when being more sure in advance. I proof every suggestion which is made, but it's nerve-racking to find out late when it doesn't fit. Thank you anyway, Mario. I'll look for Rocketeer and Sky Captain. They seem to fit.

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@Breumaster​ 

Mario, I've worked out several more options than you saw last time. I tell you it's strongly demanding. I still got one option I got to complete. Your suggestions are not forgotten, but I still ned some time. Thank you for your patience.

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@Breumaster​ I undertook a quick research and those two heroes seem to be retro-styled modern heroes... they do not fit your criteria.

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@mariojacobs​ 

They sure don't fit! Thank you for your quick research, Mario. I also checked it, because I was curious.

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@Breumaster ,

Please correct these misspellings:

Intro:

is the most intersting for you

is the most interesting for you

1 the futher success followed.

1 the further success followed.

2 Christoper Nolan's

2 Christopher Nolan's

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@dan_dassow​ 

Thank you for pointing out. Corrected!

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@Breumaster​ ,

Thank you for correcting the spelling.

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@dan_dassow​ 

Dan, I've repeatedly read through the options, because it's easy to scew up foreign language. And I think it reads much better now, all in all. If there are improvements to make it look better, I'm open about corrections. For me the project looks worthy.

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4 m ago

@Breumaster ,

Your command of English far exceeds my ability to read, write and converse in German.

The introduction and description for each of the choices read well.

There are a few grammar and spell errors that should be corrected. It's possible I missed them the first time I reviewed your poll.

3 They were adressed as pulp magazines

3 They were addressed as pulp magazines

4 After it's first success

4 After its first success

 

4 as a costumary comic

4 as a costume comic

7 film productions were loosly based

7 film productions were loosely based

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FYC:

Wonder Woman debuted in 1941 and she appeared in television until 1973 as part of the Super Friends cartoon.

Popeye his first comic strip appeared in 1929 and his first appearance in movies was in a Betty Boop cartoon in 1933, just before his first short in I Yam What I Yam

Conan the Barbarian first appeared in pulp magazine Weird Tales in 1932, his first film appearance didn't come until 1982 with Arnold Schwarzenegger film.

Dick Tracy newspaper strip came in 1931, his first film serial came in 1937.

Mandrake the Magician started as a comic strip in 1934 and starred a film serial in 1939, he would also appear as part of the cartoon Defenders of the Earth in 1986. Several tries of making a feature film have failed so far.

Sheena, Queen of the Jungle was the first woman to star in her own comic book, predating Wonder Woman by a few months, her adventures were originally published by a company called Fiction House. She jumped into television in a 26 episodes tv series in 1956 and got a Razzie nominated feature film in 1984, she had another tv series running from 2000 to 2002.

Namor The Sub-Mariner, considered as the first Marvel Comic character, starred in a cartoon in 1966. He is set to appear soon in the MCU played by Tenoch Huerta.

The Spirit, one of the most famous pulp fiction characters, appeared for the firt time in a 1940 newspaper strip. He didn't appear in TV until a 1987 TV movie that was the pilot for un unreleased Series. He later had a much more seen feature film in 2008.

I'll keep checking for more options later.

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@Pencho15​ 

Hi Pencho. As always ... thank you for suggesting. Some of your suggestions are really strong. I've put mostly all of them on the list. Except Conan. The comics first appeared in 1970. I know that he was invented much earlier by Robert E. Howard and has a big fan-base. I really like the character and yes - he is very interesting and surely ground-breaking. But the comics were first published in 1970. So he falls out of one of the main criteria. But hey! The others are on the list. Thank you for suggesting, I'll work the options out.

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@Pencho15​ 

Pencho, I've added some information about the turn of Jay Garrick to Barry Allen in "The Flash option". Please tell me, if you would say it's ok. Thank you in advance. 

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How about "Tintin"? :)

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@ElMaruecan82​ 

I was never a great fan of Tintin, but I guess he has a big fanbase, so I've put him on the list. I will work the option out. Thank you for suggesting. :D

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Well, no Tintin, no Indiana Jones...

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@ElMaruecan82​ 

??? ElMo, please look on the list. Tintin is on the list. It's option #18. I've put Tintin on the list about a day ago. Indiana Jones doesn't fit the criteria. The comics about Indiana Jones were made in the ~mid 80s. I know we had a discussion about comic and comic movies.

I want to invite you to join and do a familiar poll. I cared about the comics before 1950. What about making a poll about the comic heroes from 1950 to now? Just for your consideration. I would be delighted to vote, ElMo. But whatever you want. I hope I didn't cross your ideas. That was not in my intention.

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I would also check The Flash option.

The character introduced in the 1940s was named Jay Garrick.

The one that has appeared in almost every movie and tv series is Barry Allen, a different character inspired by but not the same as the original Flash.

He is the one from the Justice League movies, from the current tv series and from the 1990s tv series you have in your list.

While Jay Garrick has appeared as a guest star in a few TV episodes he has never starred in a show of his own.

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@Pencho15​ 

Thank you for pointing out. It seems like I missed that. I'll re-check.

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@Pencho15​ 

Pencho, I've added some information about the turn of Jay Garrick to Barry Allen in "The Flash option". Please tell me, if you would say it's ok. Thank you in advance.

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Also FYC:

Captain Marvel - First published by Fawcett Comics in 1940, it became so popular that it beat Superman to the big screen when he starred a movie serial in 1941, Adventures of Captain Marvel. After a legal battle with DC Comics due to a copyright case. Captain Marvel publication ended, until Fawcett lended and then sold the character to DC.

In the 1970s he was in a live action TV Series and in a cartoon, and today he was made famous again in the film Shazam! from the DCEU.

Aquaman first appeared in 1941. He appeared from time to time in cartoons and had a failed pilot for a tv series, he finally starred in a big production when Jason Momoa played him in the DCEU.

Green Arrow first appeared in 1941, and he has become an important character in the comics. He never was in television until he was a guest star in Smallville, and finally in 2012 he starred in his own show, Arrow, which gave origin to the CW Arrowverse.

The following characters are not really ground breaking and had little impact outside their comics, where they are mostly forgotten. However here they are so you can consider them:

Spy Smasher Another Fawcett character that appeared in comics in 1940 and got a movie serial in 1942. He is mostly forgotten today, but the serial, whcih I saw, is probably one of the best there are.

Congo Bill, after first appearing in More Fun Comics in 1940, Congo Bill an African adventurer maintained some popularity for a couple of decades and he was a back feature for Superman in Action Comics. He still appears in comics from time to time, and he starred in his own serial in 1948.

Blackhawk, another group of DC Comics military heroes, debuted in 1941 and they had their serial in 1952.

Plastic Man, a comic character first published in 1941 by Quality had a cartoon tv series in 1979.

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@Pencho15​ 

Great! Thank you! That's a lot to do the next days. Great suggestions! I guess I'll take them all on the list. What do you say about the "The Flash"-option? Would it be ok like that? Thank you for the great help. I for myself learned many things about the old heroes in that project. I like it. :D

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@Pencho15​ 

Wow! Thank you , Pencho. I've put all the suggestions on the list. And I just copied and pasted your descriptions, just modified it a little in some cases. I hope you are ok with that. That was really a big help. And I think you are right about the last four options, which I never heard of before. Three of them I would skip, if there were better suggestions instead, but don't think it's easy finding more than those 25 "ground-breaking" options. I will keep Spy Smasher for sure, because of obvious reasons. ;D

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@Breumaster​ Glad to help.

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Just a couple of notes. You wrote Shazaam with two A the last time the name appears in your description. It should be Shazam, with only one.

And 1984 Sheena's was not a tv series, but a movie.

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@Pencho15​ 

Thank you. I've corrected both. Hope it reads better now.

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4 m ago

If there are no further suggestions, I'd declare this list as ready to go!

(Anyway still open for corrections)

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Live Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/Se_veefksgg/

Congratulations Breu

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@Pencho15​ 

Thank you, Pencho. Thank you, Buddies. :D

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"biggest impact on the whole genre or is the most interesting for you?"

Sorry but, one or the other here. These are two very distinct and different questions with equally individual and divergent answers. 

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@Brew_Swaine​ 

The question is two-parted because of the long time range of the subject. On IMDb there are older and younger users. Both have their own perception on comics and movies connected to them. But the subject is about comic heroes which were published more than 70 years ago. The first part of the question is for the older users. The second part is for the younger users. To get the most broad mass of users to vote, I used both questions. I hope that is ok as an explanation.

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@Breumaster​ Makes perfect sense Breu - thanks for responding.