Live Face-Off Poll: "Star Trek: Discovery" vs. "The Orville"

Is there really anything to discuss?!?  CBS wants "Star Trek: Discovery" to be "Star Wars" in order to compete. And, "Star Trek" is about a future of PEACE!!! NOT war!!!  War is literally in the title of "Star Wars." So, there ALWAYS will need to be a war to sustain the "Star Wars" franchise.  "The Orville" is the ONLY worthy descendant of the "Star Trek" franchise at this point!!! Why? Because "The Orville" is about PEACE!!!  It is about a world that is BETTER than the one we are currently living in!!!  It gives us a goal to strive for in life!!!  It encourages us as a world to be kinder and gentler versus staying in a continuous selfish, self-centered, pointless, destructive war until everyone is wounded, trusts no one and ends up DEAD!!!  "The Orville" gives us HOPE in the PRESENT by showing us a possible utopia of the future!!! It takes much more strength to hope than despair.  Trust me!!!  

The Orville is a loving homage to Gene Roddenberry's optimistic vision of the future.  It remains true to Roddenberry's ideals.  It is well written and has interesting plots, well-fleshed-out characters that we can sympathize with and root for, and intelligent, incisive social commentary that doesn't deteriorate into preaching.  The writers make a serious attempt to keep the science plausible. The effects are top notch.

Discovery, on the other hand, is lousy in pretty much every conceivable way.  The writing is poor: the stories make no sense, the characters are two-dimensional, and the main character is such an arrogant, irritating jackass that we actually want to see her get killed off so she can be replaced with someone less abrasive.  The "science" is laughable.  The cinematography is rotten: the sets are so dark that you can't see what is going on, especially wit the excessive lens flare and the crazy camera angles.  When aliens speak we are given endless paragraphs of subtitles to read, which soon grows tedious.  Pretty much everything about this show is crude and amateurish.  This is not true Star Trek by any means; it is the polar opposite of Roddenberry's vision.

Discovery is what it is, The Orville is not what you say it is.

Speaks for itself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qJZbruSdSk&t

Star Trek, Hands down, is the best show! Seth McFarlen has done so much with the IP!