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JFF: In Your Opinion What is the Most Overrated Movie of All Time?

For me it is Back to the Future

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Star Wars: Ep IV

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Shawshank Redemption, not because I dislike it, but because I can't understand its place as the number one film of all time.

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@Pencho15​ Agree. Its the most overrated movie. Also Back to the Future is massively overrated too.

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1 year ago

For me it has to be 'Pretty Woman '

But apparently its not cool to say anything against this movie !!!

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Kagemusha

[waiting to be stoned alive]

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I'd never even heard of Kagemusha 《影武者》 Shadow Warrior, or at least I don't remember, but then again I've had limited exposure to the guy who directed it, as most of the Japanese films I've seen were made within the last thirty years.

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For me Pretty Woman

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Godfather Part II was renowned to be a rare sequel/prequel that was better than the original. 

I don't see it and thought that, unlike the original, it had several sequences that were downright silly like Mike Corleone's hugely stereotypical hitman who strolls into Johnny Ola's hotel room, apparently unimpeded by say, a locked door, and strangles him with a coat hanger. Don't even get me started about his attempt to smother Hymen Roth with a pillow.

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That's a good point, cohort, and it's almost as though such an aspect of depiction was subtly satirical.

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I kinda don't think Coppola does much in the way of satire especially of his own stuff tho' now I think on it, Luca Brazzi rehearsing his speech at the wedding was funny. Mario Puzo's written Luca was not funny. Oh, yeah, Frank Pentangeli was seriocomic, a take-off on Joe Valachi.

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Well, also, sometimes satire is not especially funny, but I'd agree satire was not likely Coppola's intent with the way the assassinations were depicted. I mean, he must've really wanted the assassin's techniques to appear extremely impressive, unfortunately to the point that suspension of disbelief becomes harder.

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Factoid #2: Richard Castellano was supposed to play the stool pigeon in Godfather II as "Clemenza" but he wanted too much money and he wanted his girlfriend to write his dialog. Coppola told him to forget it. More comedy.

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2 months ago

The Godfather (the entire series)

This is an immoral, unethical, disgusting piece of garbage that glorifies organized crime and the criminal element.  It has no redeeming social values.

You can lump in all films and tv shows that glorify and deify crime.

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@TheOldJalapenoman​ Don't sugar-coat it, tell me what you really think. 

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I've found that my criticisms of The Godfather don't extend much beyond the technical  shortcoming (such as the look of some of the murders.). I'm not too critical of the message, because it seems to be that the basic theme is that there be no rest for the wicked. In the same way that The Godfather may be seen as overrated, Once Upon a Time in America should perhaps be seen as underrated.

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OK but my beef is only with Godfather II. Godfather III deserves no honorable mention what with Connie Corleone Rizzi involved in the murder of Don what's-his-name (Eli Wallach) with poisoned canoli, jeez! Re Once Upon a Time...Isn't that the one where James Woods' character speaks an observation regarding organized crime in America such that "It's better to have some diseases when you're young"? OH! Come On!

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Yes, well, the third Godfather film was a major disappointment to very many appreciators of the original film and the first sequel, so much that it kind of goes without saying. Despite the defective premise of the third film, I do like the world building (like the whole Vatican angle) undertaken.

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Factoid: Robert Duval, who might have lent some quality to Godfather III, would not participate because Coppola would only offer him 1/4 of the money that Pacino was getting. I heard Duval say so in an interview.

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I kind of wish Duval hadn't declined to participate, but I also get the feeling that Puzo and Coppola, or maybe the studio corporation, deliberately wanted to drive him away or at least make it all about Pacino and Garcia, even though they were already the focus. When actors complain about insufficient compensation, sometimes (perhaps rarely) they are actually unhappy about having their screen time reduced too much, which means that the difficultly lay primarily with the creative process. In terms of star power, Duval has been acting in films longer than Pacino had, but yet obviously Pacino was the star of the film franchise.

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15 days ago

I don't know, maybe The Dark Knight takes the cake.

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Pulp Fiction

I mean it's good, but come on, it's not that good

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Some material winds up being "overrated" because is was groundbreaking if not just happening to be a breath of fresh air at the very time that it was released with a strong affinity for being nostalgic.

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@jeorj_euler​ I just get sick of all the gushing over it. Nothing really stands out to me: none of the particular performances, the cinematography, etc

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Pulp Fiction does contains a scene or two with lengthy uninterrupted shots of characters engaged in dialog or monologue. While that is not groundbreaking, it is a tad unusual. Much of the film merely contributes to shock value (but in a "less is more" kind of way), and that kind of stuff speak directly to the brain chemistry of a vast majority of human beings. On top of that, the film is satirical. What makes it special is the way that old tropes are composited/synthesized together.

I didn't realize there was an extreme amount of gushing over it, but we should notice that almost everybody who has provided an answer to this thread has identified a distinct movie, so maybe awareness factors of hype and fanaticism (that which makes a "fan") factors into it. We also have to remember that folks can become fascinated by or obsessed with something that is better than anything they've ever observed or experienced before, and the range of things to which those folks have been exposed may be very limited, perhaps forgotten by time.