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Tue, Apr 16, 2019 1:51 AM

When do still photographs qualify for an archive footage credit?

I'm still a bit confused as to when a still photograph qualifies for an archive footage credit, despite the guidelines (shown below).

What about a news show, for example? Below you'll see a screencap from an episode of SECULAR TALK called "Tulsi Gabbard Rips the Arrest of Julian Assange". Tulsi Gabbard is credited in the title. And from the vidcap below, you can see that her still image appears next to the host. Should Tulsi Gabbard be credited for archive footage?


 

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2 years ago

I think I have the answer after looking more closely at the guidelines. The photograph of Tulsi Gabbard was not explicitly created for the show, and so she doesn't qualify for an archive footage credit. In fact, it looks as if she isn't eligible for any kind of credit at all. Am I right?

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I also find it confusing. You didn't mention this part, which also belongs to the same rule about still photographs:

"If the content is not explicitly created for the title and they are credited: they should be listed with the 'credit only' attribute."

And then there are the archive footage rules:

"The "on screen credit" rule: If someone's appearance is credited on screen it automatically qualifies as a valid archive footage credit, regardless of what type of archive footage it is. This supersedes any of the potential exclusions below."

One of the exclusions below is:

"The "must be real footage" rule: If someone's stock likeness appears as a photograph or as a poster on a wall, or on the cover of a magazine etc. in a scene of a film, it's not eligible."

https://help.imdb.com/article/contrib...

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2 years ago

I believe the ”(credit only)” attribute can be added when person is actually credited in the end credits and the photo is part of the film/story (not e.g. real historical/archive photo or real PR shot). There was one earlier thread about this, let’s see if I can find it.

( There was an actor in the series who appeared (only) in a photo in one of the episodes. Since the actor/character was still credited, I added it with ”(credit only)” attribute. )

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If the person is credited and a photo of the appears that was created for the title, I'm not sure why that would need an attribute at all. I've only run in to this once on a TV show I watch and I didn't add the (credit only) attribute because I didn't think it was necessary.

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2 years ago

Hi all,

If she wasn't credited on screen then she shouldn't receive a credit on the title as the image wasn't specifically created for this title, if that makes sense.

Regards,
Will 

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I'm still confused. If her name had appeared under the photo, she would have been eligible for an archive footage credit?

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J., according to cast guidelines it would be more of "(credit only)" attribute in a Himself category, if it's eligible, that is. 

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2 years ago

Here’s the older thread (not sure does it help, but still):
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...

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2 years ago

Hi J. -

To help clarify, we will make credit exceptions for individuals who appear in still images on titles, however, the exception can only be made if the image content was created specifically for that title; so if the image was from another title it is not eligible.  You can find further information regarding these credits and the exception requirements on the following guide: https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/filmography-credits/cast-acting-credits-guidelines/GH3JZC...# (look under the "General Notes" section).

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The picture of Tulsi Gabbard is presumably a stock photo. It wasn't created specifically for that title, but it doesn't come from a different title either. This may be the first title to use the image.

I'll assume she is not eligible for an archive footage credit. Thanks to Will and Michelle for the help. I have to confess that I'm still confused about the intricacies of these photo rules, but maybe we can visit the topic later.

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Hi J. -

Unless the image was created for the specific title, it won't be eligible for a credit (if that helps clarify).  Concerning an archive footage credit, if someone's stock likeness appears as a photograph or as a poster on a wall, or on the cover of a magazine, etc. in a scene of a title, it's not eligible.