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Sun, Aug 1, 2021 10:32 AM

Visual Effects vs other departments like Producer and Editorial Department

When you're certain that people credited together all work for the same visual effects company, but there's no mention that they work for that company in the on-screen credits, other than being listed immediately after the visual effects company name, and are credited with job roles like executive producer and colourist...

Should they go in the usual producer and editorial department departments?

Or...

Should they all go in the visual effects department?

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1 m ago

Hi daniel_francis_gardecki -

This is a bit tricky because the role touches on both visual effect and editing.

From my understanding, the role of "Digital intermediate" is finishing process which classically involves digitizing a motion picture and manipulating the color and other image characteristics.  While the distinction between visual and editorial is a bit blurred, I would categorize this role as an editorial finishing role, and would place it under the "Editorial Department".

I hope this helps!

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2 m ago

These are what I'm talking about.

As it's a short, they haven't made them working for the company as obvious as feature films or TV shows do, but I'm certain they all work (or worked) for the visual effects company listed at the top.

Also should I add the company to their credits? 

ie. Jan Hogevold - Executive Producer: Framestore

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That is the whole point of the company name being at the top of the list, and I would absolutely list them all together, list the company name in their credits, which is an IMDb guideline, and I would list all of them in the EDITORIAL DEPARTMENT, because digital intermediate is an edit function, as are all eight of the credits listed in the above example.  If you want further proof, take a look at some of the names, and see if they have other credits listed such as "colorist: Framestore" or "conform editor: Framestore" or "hd mastering: Framestore," etc.  Possible exceptions for the two producers, but that is a judgment call.  Whether they are listed in editing, or in producers, they should still be listed with the company name appended.

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@trivwhiz As I said, feature films and TV shows make it more obvious than this, as they don't have big gaps in between them and the company like this does.

And I have looked at all of the credits for the 8 people listed above, as I have all 8 of them ready to submit along with the rest of the missing or incorrect credits, and all 8 of them have most of their credits in the visual effects department.

  • Most people who work for visual effects companies and are credited as executive producers I often find in the visual effects department, but sometimes find in the producer department.
  • Most people who work for visual effects companies and are credited as digital intermediate producers I always find in the visual effects department.
  • I always put people who are colourists in the editorial department, however I keep finding them in the visual effects department, when they work for visual effects companies.
  • I'm not sure if I've ever seen a conform editor credit before, however I'm pretty sure that I've seen credits which use the word conform somewhere in the role before, and they're usually in the visual effects department.
  • Any credits containing the word digital I always find in the visual effects department.
  • I've never heard of a film scanning/film scanner before.
  • I've never heard of a H.D. mastering/high definition master before.

Here are the 8 people in question along with the number of visual effects and editorial credits they have so far in their filmography:

Jan Hogevold - IMDb 106 visual effects, 32 editorial

Esme Long - IMDb 15 visual effects, 4 editorial

Zoe Cousins - IMDb 33 visual effects, 30 editorial

Ian Mathews - IMDb 24 visual effects, 0 editorial

Andy Burrow - IMDb 103 visual effects, 2 editorial

Kevin Lowery - IMDb 67 visual effects, 2 editorial

Charlie Habanananda - IMDb 83 visual effects, 4 editorial

David Johnston - IMDb 17 visual effects, 13 editorial

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