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Mon, Dec 11, 2017 5:42 PM

Updates to User Reviews

Today we are announcing changes to User Reviews as part of the broader site update announcement (https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0). After in-depth discussion and examination, we have decided to simplify the features and functionality for reviews as follows:

  • “Your Reviews” are now ordered by Date and reviews on each Title sub page are ordered by Helpfulness.We will continue to update functionality in the new year, starting by bringing back the ability to sort reviews from newest to oldest/oldest to newest. We appreciate your patience as we continue to improve the overall experience.
  • We have removed the Index view. 
  • We updated the way that reviews with spoilers are displayed.
Additionally, on our iOS and Android apps, you can now browse all reviews for a movie or show, as well as see which reviews were voted most helpful. In the next few days we’ll be updating the Review contribution experience, which will be the foundation to enabling mobile users to write and post reviews in the near future. For more information about Reviews, see the IMDbHelp Center.

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530 Points

3 y ago

Active Measures might had been released on 31 August but there could been previews or special showings or shown in film festivals.

I once attended a film preview in Hollywood Boulevard for a movie that was released some weeks later.

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594 Points

3 y ago

I'm not 100% sure if this is right category to post in, but: I've noticed that some recent User Reviews have become little more than two-sentence rants. People who have nothing of value to say are posting reviews... for what purpose? They are not thought out, they are not intelligent, they are filled with spelling and grammatical errors. How does this benefit the community? I saw one recently where someone who hated a particular movie copied and pasted his/her hateful sentence 10 times and submitted that as a review. I reported it. Will it change anything? I'm thinking not. 

On one hand, I realize IMDB staff do not have all day to sit and proofread everything that comes in, nor verify if the review is worth posting. On the other hand: where is the criterion for posting? Doesn't it include parameters? I can't seem to find that information anymore. If it exists, it doesn't seem to make any difference. 

I also saw what I can only call "haters" reviews for "Crazy Rich Asians" -- the reviews were racist, vile and hateful. Am I suppose to report each one? 

IMDB used to be a fun place to come to read user reviews (with Roger Ebert gone, there really are only a few "pro" critics that I read, since the "pro" ones that IMDB offers seem to mainly be people who give their blogs names and somehow end up getting their reviews listed under Critics' Reviews). But now, I am seeing so many awful, rambling, misspelled, grammatically incorrect messes that all the joy of reading reviews is gone. I'm better off just posting reviews on my own website. 

Does anybody monitor the quality of reviews on IMDB? And if not, why not? Because it would take too much time? 

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Hear, hear!  IMDb used to have a minimum required length for reviews (as well as a max limit of 1,000 words), but removed this among other things when changing to a supposedly more-smart-phone friendly format.  Now, is it not only more difficult to navigate through thousands of reviews for films or from individual reviewers, but the review sections are also polluted with reviews of not even a paragraph's length or not even one coherent sentence.  I don't care to see a bunch of people simply posting "I liked it" and "I hated it," either.  That's not interesting or useful information.

The racist reviews are another matter, and I'm sure that's just an issue of IMDb not being able to monitor everything at all times.  I'm sure they find it important to delete that stuff; heck, they got rid of the message boards largely because of such posts.

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I didn't realize that's why they got rid of the message boards. How sad that people must be so hateful that we lose many things that could have been of value. 

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3 y ago

I'm in the same wavelength than all users who expressed their concerns about the new reviewing system. I sincerely try to approach the matter as neutrally as possible and I'm not judging those who make these one-sentence reviews but there is a movie on IMDb with many reviews from 2018 and here are some:

"It's great movie for ever and I love it from beginning to end"

"This film unforgettable! This film i can watched indefinitely!"

"One of my favorite movies since i was a teenager, amazing performance & story."

I am sorry but these are not reviews, these are reactions, plain reactions, they give absolutely no specific insight about the film, no analysis, no criticism. Reviewing is a passion for many of us but I'm not sure I would have started this had I read these on IMDb back then in the 2000s.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about the length, Pauline Kael made many reviews that didn't take more than 100 words but she went straight to the point and expressed a sharp and well-expressed opinion.

Maybe we should get back to the old system? Because at this track, anyone can make it to the Top Reviewer if it all it takes is "one enthusiastic sentence".

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60 Points

3 y ago

The new format for reviews (on approx.11/8/18) is very hard to read. The font is so small & pale. We're not all 18 you know. ;-)

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We have not recently changed the format, sorry.   This is likely to be a local issue, please try the steps on https://help.imdb.com/article/imdb/general-information/why-is-imdb-displaying-differently-on-my-brow... and let us know what happens. 

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3 y ago

With 2018 nearing an end, two major things, as I see it, still need to be changed/reverted back to regarding reviews.

1. Revert back to a longer minimum length for reviews, like IMDb used to have, so that they're actually reviews and not reactions as short as a sentence or less.  I think anything less than a decent paragraph is worthless clutter.

2. Reintroduce an index, or at least additional sorting options such as by first letters of titles and by years, for user review pages.  It's impractical now to look through reviews by users who have written hundreds, thousands or tens of thousands of reviews.

Say a movie has 5,600+ and counting reviews such as "The Last Jedi."  if a reviewer isn't one of the most prolific of prolific reviewers (as in will appear on first page, maybe two, of that search option), then there's little chance I'll bother looking further for it.  There's absolutely no chance I'd try to search for it on the user's review page if they have hundreds or more reviews and if the title doesn't begin with a letter at the very beginning (actually, a number, since they appear first) or end of the alphabet.

Both of these problems kind of go hand in hand, as it's about trying to get past all of the rubbish postings to read thoughtful reviews, which are proportionally declining.  IMDb is surely receiving more "reviews," but I'm reading less of them because of these problems.  I also wonder with an increase in such poorly-written "reviews" whether it's only a matter of time before their clutter becomes as much of a policing problem as the message boards were, resulting in the removal of the function entirely.

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You're absolutely right. It took me like half an hour to write a review for "Bohemian Rhapsody" and it depressed me that the leading review (so to speak) took in only one sentence, and one that says:

I dont know how to elaborate more than this. If you are 35 and younger, you will understand after seeing this movie.

Well, if that's a review (apparently 472 users found it useful) then I'm wondering what I've been doing these last years, philosophical essays? I don't mean to sound pompous but these one-sentence (or two) reviews really undermine the efforts of us who've tried to be constructive and insightful... not to satisfy our egos but out of respect for IMDb and the users who'll check reviews before watching a film.

Seriously, it's not even the length, some reviews say nothing substantial about the film, they're just reactions. Such reviews can be copy-pasted for 100 movies in one day, users can be in the Top Reviewer section in less than a week, but for what contributions?

Please, let's get back to the old rules.



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Yeah, I don't think it'd be too difficult to become one of the most prolific reviewers by merely posting brief reactions that hardly say anything beyond "I liked" or "hated this."  It looks like that's basically what BatmanFunReviews2018 has done, although their comments even manage to be longer than those of many others.

I'm also pretty sure that IMDb already doesn't check every review before it's posted.  Surely nobody approved this dandy of an IMDb review:

"Jævla drittfilm. Hadde heldigvis ei flaske aquavit til å hjelpemeg å se ferdig"

One result of this is that I can write a review nearing 1,000 words, and, if it's for a mainstream movie currently in theatres, it may take a couple days for it to be approved, by which time it'll be buried under a multitude of reactions of only a couple sentences or fewer each.  And it'll likely never be read again by another.

Edit: The spell check filter mentioned by CliffJ above is a good idea, too, which I believe IMDb used to employ.  I remember I used quite a few French words in a review long ago (for a French film, of course), and it was rejected for it, which I was fine with.

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IMDbmember :
It looks like that's basically what BatmanFunReviews2018 has done
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BatmanFunReviews2018
IMDb member since July 2013
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur45215448/
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur45215448/ratings - 7,482 titles
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur45215448/reviews - 7,350 Reviews

See more:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/bot-putting-automated-bad-reviews-on-films

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Kundali Bhagya  (2017- )
Country: India
Language: Hindi
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7147670/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7147670/reference
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7147670/reviews

https://www.imdb.com/review/rw4456716/
Chutya mandli
heenachoudhary-6906213 - November 13 2018
Warning: Spoilers
Bhart Ka nhi puri duniya ka sabse boring sabse ghatiya serial he ye

heenachoudhary-69062
IMDb member since November 13 2018
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur95160000/
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Well, what can we do?

At least I save every review I write just in case... and I guess there's still the possibility to sort reviews by "prolific reviewers" but even that parameter won't help much when users will become prolific by copy-pasting one-sentence reactions as reviews.

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It's been a while since I visited this thread, so I apologize in advance for bringing up a topic that may have already been dealt with. I have two questions.

Is the topic of indexing for individual user reviews a dead issue? Being able to see a complete list of titles (and only the titles) one submits a review for was very valuable to me.

Secondly, here are both the 'descending' and 'ascending' alphabetical listing of titles I've reviewed, and one can see that neither one is accurately stated.

https://www.imdb.com/user/ur2707735/reviews?sort=alphabeticalTitle&dir=desc&ratingFilter=0

https://www.imdb.com/user/ur2707735/reviews?sort=alphabeticalTitle&dir=asc&ratingFilter=0

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3 y ago

Sometimes, a picture can speak a thousand words, here's a simple comparaison between one movie released at the end of 2017, and one at the end of 2018.

 I sorted the reviews by date so we can have for each film the first written reviews, it speaks for itself (another discovery is that the one that's been on IMDb for a year has less than 1000 reviews, the one that's been here for less than two months has almost 1500)

I think it all comes down to the quantity vs. quality equation. I'm not even blaming those who wrote these one-sentence reactions, since it's allowed... and in one week you have hundreds of users who rated your "review" useful... bu when you check the accounts behind these reactions, it's like some users only registered for the sake of reviewing that particular film, they're not regulars.

I'm not worried right now, I'm worried for the next two years. All regular reviewers will become invisible and sorting reviews by "author prolificness" will be useless and there'll come a point where IMDb will realize the reviews don't serve any purpose after all and will remove them, I can see that coming and I just wish it doesn't happen. Some reviews are here from 1999, almost 20 years!

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824 Points

The one line reviews makes a mockery of the system. I've been writing reasonably in-depth reviews for the past 13 years and am disgusted by the decision to allow short comments that give little insight. I'm glad that I saw fit to save all my reviews as text files so that if IMDb ditches reviews altogether, I have a record of my work.

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The one line reviews makes a mockery of the system. I've been writing reasonably in-depth reviews for the past 13 years and am disgusted by the decision to allow short comments that give little insight. I'm glad that I saw fit to save all my reviews as text files so that if IMDb ditches reviews altogether, I have a record of my work.
It won't help you, but I sympathize (and agree).

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