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Tue, Dec 5, 2017 6:30 PM

Updates to Box Office on IMDb Title Pages & IMDbPro

We are pleased to announce the release of expanded boxoffice performance available on IMDb title pages including:

  • USA gross
  • Worldwide gross
  • USA opening weekend gross
  • Country where the Movie opened (if the first opening was not USA)
  • Opening weekend theater Information (Limited or Wide)
  • Budget
Additional box office performance of a title including copyright holder and theatrical rentals is now available to IMDbPro members.

With this change, we will deprecate the title box office page from IMDb, with the goal of focusing on other features that we have heard our customers are more interested in when using IMDb. This change is one of the projects under the umbrella of software upgrades IMDb’s CEO &Founder, Col Needham, wrote about here: https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0

IMDb is passionately committed to providing innovative ways for our users to engage with our content and we appreciate your continued support of IMDb.

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4 y ago

This might be the first annoucement that looks promising at last... ;o)

Anyway, I wanted to give it a try, so I tested one of the major recent French releases "Au revoir là haut", but http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5258850/business just reload the main page.
And same thing for "Gravity" (2013) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1454468/business

Anything wrong?

V.

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Ah, I got it: the links, obtained from the */combined pages, are deprecated.
From a "standard" page display, the Business section is now at the minimum minimorum, and the rest seems to have been moved to IMDbPro.

Disappointment, disappoitment again. Daud Lighman, I am afraid we do not share passion the same way...

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4 y ago

If business section now is only for premium users (IMDbPro), I want money for every info that I added or corrected in a movie or TV Series in the business section.

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4 y ago

"with the goal of focusing on other features that we have heard our customers are more interested in when using IMDb" Really you think that IMDb users aren't interested in things like the budget, the box office or the filming dates of a movie? Maybe you live in another planet, or think that IMDb users are children of six years old.
I'm go to bed. Lot of kisses.

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4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled How can I see the filming dates of a movie, now that the "Box Office / Business" ....

I notice that the "Box Office/Business" link is now gone from IMDb pages of films. I'm wondering how I can view the filming dates of a given film, now that this is the case. That information used to be listed under the box office totals, which could be accessed through that link. Thank you very much!

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Sorry this should have been covered above; the information on filming dates will return in an update to one of the other title sub-pages.  The timing should be early in 2018. 

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Filming dates are back and the locations sub-page has been re-titled to "Filming & Production" and now includes the data information.  For example, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052357/locations

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4 y ago

Very disappointed that the "Box Office/Business" section is gone from regular IMDb pages. I used to contribute a lot of information there, especially for classic films, from the AFI Catalog entry on the film - such as production dates and full copyright information - and budget and box office results from contemporary sources that are often missing for these older films. I guess you don't value that kind of input anymore.

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4 y ago

I see the box office section on many title pages, but not yet on others, such as Paddington 2 or Murder on the Orient Express.

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Hi Peter,

Thank you for your feedback, we're looking into this right now.

Cheers,
Daud

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We have located the display bug behind this and it should be fixed within the next day or so.  Thanks for the problem report. 

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I still don't understand what's going on with the box office/business thing. Has it entirely been moved to IMDbPro (in which case: booooh!), or will it return? The original post seems to say that the info should be on a movie's title page, but I certainly can't find it.

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Yes, it is there on title pages, below the Details section, see my screen grab below. There are also versions of it in mobile view and apps.

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??? I'm not seeing it. (I'm on a PC, not a phone.) The "Details" section on a title page is at the top of the right-side menu, with the following sections beneath:

Details
I can't find any Box Office info.

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Okay, I see it now - after disabling the reference view. But damn, I want to use the reference view! Can't you put that info on there as well?????

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4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Box office/business links not working.

The box office/business links in the reference view seems to have stopped working the last couple of days; clicking it simply takes me to the main movie page (/combined in my case) instead. I've tried for several movies and in different browsers, with the same happening every time. I hope these pages haven't been permanently and/or intentionally removed, as information about filming dates, budget and box office for movies has always been interesting to read.

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4 y ago

When I logged out I could find the information you mention in the horrible mess that is the default view (but only using the browser search function to even find the right place on the page), but the information is nowhere to be found in the reference view, which still has a lot of fans. The information needs to be available for us too.

IMO shooting dates isn't something that should be limited to IMDb Pro users, though.

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Indeed, I use the reference and combined views as well, way more helpful than the standard view, and yet there is no box office section at all there now. Can't keep logging out every time I want to see a couple of numbers.

At least fix this, which is kinda urgent; and then we'll rant about why other box office details were removed.

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Indeed, I use the reference and combined views as well, way more helpful than the standard view, and yet there is no box office section at all there now. Can't keep logging out every time I want to see a couple of numbers

by Crusader_of_Melnibone
Joined on February 9, 2017
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/people/crusader_of_melnibone

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Pulp Fiction (1994)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/reference

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/combined

Quicklinks
Other Info
box office/business
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/business  ?? No !!

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https://www.imdb.com/preferences/general
General
[X] Show reference view (old title/name page layout)

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That would be the same thing as logging out, since I'd change it back to reference view afterwards.

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Indeed, I use the reference and combined views as well, way more helpful than the standard view, and yet there is no box office section at all there now...

That would be the same thing as logging out,
since I'd change it back to reference view afterwards.
Posted Dec 7 2:11
by Crusader_of_Melnibone
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https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/announcement-updates-to-box-office-on-imdb-title-pages-imdbp...

I see the box office section on many title pages, but not yet on others,
such as Paddington 2 or Murder on the Orient Express.
Posted Dec 6
by Peter, Champion
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https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/announcement-updates-to-box-office-on-imdb-title-pages-imdbp...

We have located the display bug behind this
and it should be fixed within the next day or so. 
Thanks for the problem report
Posted Dec 7 4:55
by Col Needham, Official Rep



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My report was about the default title page, which is now meant to have a box office section as described in the top post.

It shouldn't be surprising that reference/combined pages don't have the same new features as the default title pages.

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@Peter

The reference/combined pages has always had the same, or more, relevant information about movies before. When essential features are removed from separate sections and are supposed to be moved into the regular movie information page, one should expect, no in fact demand, that that information is made available on the reference view as well.

If nothing else, replace the "box office/business" link in the reference view with a link to "default view" (or whatever you want to call it) that we can access without having to log out.

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The reference/combined pages are simply the old version of IMDb from 7+ years ago and are effectively frozen in time.  They are full of bugs and are unsupported. We have not added any of the new features launched on IMDb since 2010. 

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@Col Needham;

I'm not familiar with the bugs in the old view, but I'm sure it would take an experienced programmer no more than 5-10 minutes to replace the box office/business link with a link to the default view which wouldn't require logging or reconfiguring site settings ever time you want to check business information for a movie. It would be a simple workaround, and that link really should have been there all along since you implemented the changes in 2010 anyway.

Besides, shouldn't the fact that so many are still opting for the old version clue you in to that you should perhaps make new, compatible view options more akin to the old version? It really can't be that hard.

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The IMDb staff don't want to touch the pages of the old platform at all, and they won't change their minds about it.

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Fair enough, but nothing prevents from developping an equivalent page: I have not found a display that offers as many information as the /combined pages do.

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Did IMDb staff member Nic Bachhuber contact you, Vincent Fournols? I guess, we're supposed to send our feedback to him.

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@Jeorj, thanks. Until I saw you post, I have never come across that name. And I was not aware that was such a possibility. May I ask you for a source for your guess and supposition?

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O, he sent me an e-mail message. I'm not the only one to receive it either, but the only other subscriber known by me to have received it is ACT_1, as revealed in a GS topic that was recently posted and recently erased.

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O, he sent me an e-mail message.
I'm not the only one to receive it either,
but the only other subscriber known by me to have received it is ACT_1,
as revealed in a GS topic that was recently posted and recently erased.
Jeorj Euler

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Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017

Hi ACT_1,
Yes, please don’t post on GetSatisfaction regarding Reference View. 
From: Bachhuber, Nic



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Wow. What the hell is going on? Anyway, please visit the Help Desk, if you're interested in providing feedback about the upcoming Combined View.

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This gives a clue about what will happen to reference view:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...

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@Peter

Thanks for that link. It will be interesting to see how the reference view is going to be implemented in the new system. Hopefully all our current concerns will be addressed when everything is in place for the new system. :)

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4 y ago

Thank you all for your feedback.  We’re alwayslistening to our users and will continue to take this feedback into considerationas we evolve our site.

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4 y ago

I really don't understand this. Can someone please explain this? I don't see why this gets removed and doesn't come back.
I understood the message boards being removed, although I still miss 'em and feel they worked better than GetSat (where you can't even reply to every post and still can't login with your IMDb user name and password!).
I can understand removing the character pages and literature section in order to bring them back with newer software and more options. (I sure hope I'm not being very naive here)
I am very unhappy with the removal of all the options in one's Vote History, but at least, most of it is still accessible via the Advanced Search.
I have to say that I *am* happy to see that former wikid areas FAQ's, Parental Guides and Plot Synopses will become (or already are) checked by staffers.
But I really don't see why the box office information is deleted and doesn't seem to be coming back. Why remove valid information from a DATAbase? You should want more data concerning films, not less.