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Mon, May 6, 2019 2:02 PM

TV-movies problem found

Hey all,
In a few years time I've corrected over 3000 tv-specials which were added as tv-movies.
These were mostly concerts, stand-up shows and awards shows.
I've always wondered why so many people add them as movies when 'tv-special' is an option too when adding a TV title.
But I might have finally found the reason; it's in the site's policy. I've found it here:
https://help.imdb.com/article/imdb/discover-watch/how-do-you-decide-if-a-title-is-a-film-a-tv-movie-...#
' (1)= TV pilots and TV Specials are also categorized as "TV Movies" '

Could this be the reason or do you think it's something else?
My other theory is that the keyword 'tv-special' NEEDS to be added as well, otherwise it'll end up as a movie anyway. And that most people don't know / do that.
Love to hear some feedback.
Have a good day!

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a year ago

Hi M J,

It is the same title type (TV Movie) if that makes sense, but the tv-special keyword gets added which makes it display as a special. When you first submit a title this is presented as a separate option though. 

I hope this helps. 

Regards,
Will

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a year ago

Will! I guess I finally have my answer, thanks!
So adding a new title as 'tv-special' instead of 'tv-movie' doesn't actually change anything?
Is this a bug that started after implementing the tv-specials?
Cheers!

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a year ago

Hi M J,

Yes it changes the display, for example, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9168816/?ref_=nv_sr_2?ref_=nv_sr_2 displays as a TV Special




Internally this is stored as a TV Movie with an added tv-special keyword, which makes this display as a TV Special. You can see this if you hit the edit page option looking at the format of the title.



which shows it as a TV movie. I hope this helps explain the situation.

Regards,
Will

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Q: Is this a bug that started after implementing the tv-specials?..
A: Yes it changes the display...
interesting...

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a year ago

I'm sorry, I still don't get it. If only the addition of the keyword 'tv-special' makes it display as tv-special, then what is the difference between choosing 'TV-movie' or 'TV-special' when adding a new title?

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As I understand, all of them are added as 'TV-movie'.
But when adding you choose 'TV-special', then such title is automatically supplied with 'tv-special' keyword. 
The TV-Movies with 'tv-special' keyword are displayed as 'TV Special' then.

PS: but the above conception corresponds hardly to the advanced search that I provided at the top. Otherwise, Melodi grand prix has a bug for searching, or another way to be keyworded as 'tv-special'.

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I’m also a bit confused. I recently added one title and chose ”TV Special” from (more or less) the first page when adding a new title. I noticed that it’s listed as a ”TV Movie”. Didn’t add any keywords.

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The submission reviewers may have made a conscious choice to prevent the keyword from being added.

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Have you got an example of this? The keyword generated from the TV Special selection may have been rejected.

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I just added next year's Oscars, selecting TV special, but without adding the keyword manually. See for yourself whether it automatically generates the keyword:

https://contribute.imdb.com/updates/u...
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10305932/

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I guess we finally have our answer, Thanks Peter.

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Thank you for the example, I've reported this now for our tech teams to investigate.

Regards,
Will

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Any news on this? :)

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I added some tv-specials without the keyword but they were still displayed as tv-movies so it's still the same.

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https://www.imdb.com/search/keyword/?mode=detail&page=1&title_type=tvMovie&ref_=kw_ref_g...

Someone is adding a ton of soccer matches, probably as tv-specials but they're all shown as tv-movies. I've already corrected thousands of them but this is madness.
Also, they should've been added as episodes and the soccer league as a series, like the World Cups.
I don't understand why titles get approved so easily, contributors can damage the database easily and no one will notice.
I don't get it.

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I guess it mostly comes down to the keyword (I already asked about this a few years ago, it seems):

https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...

I guess the confusing part is that does it really matter whether we choose ”TV Movie” or ”TV Special” when we choose the title ”type” from the first part of the new title form? Meaning, if you still ALSO have to add the ”tv-special” keyword later on.

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Hi all,

It does matter, if you choose the TV special option when you choose the type, that automatically applies the tv-special keyword to the title so you don't have to.

If for example, you had a TV movie that is already live on IMDb that should be listed as a TV special, you can change it to that by adding the tv-special keyword.

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OK, it's previously understood. Then why the search:
https://www.imdb.com/search/title?title_type=tv_movie&keywords=tv-special&view=simple&co...
results in one option Melodi grand prix ?
A glitch?
Or it was a rare case when the keyword was added manually?

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a year ago

Will: Can you please test whether choosing "TV special" as the title type does automatically add the "tv-special" keyword to a new title as it is supposed to? In the past, I have seen that it didn't, because there were titles which I submitted with TV special as the title type, but I forgot to submit the "tv-special" keyword, and the title showed up as a TV movie in the database.

Maybe this has been fixed since then ... but if it really had been fixed, then we wouldn't see this error as much as M J reports above.

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Yes, this has been the main point/question all along. Perhaps it’s best to test it.