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Stop messing with my credits!

I've had several issues with credits being added to my profile that I did NOT work on. That finally seems to have been resolved, but now they've removed a credit that I DID work on. A credit that had been on my IMDb for 20 years, and somehow just recently got removed by, I'm assuming, the same "bot" that had been filling my credits with titles I was not affiliated with. I re-submitted the credit for addition, but it was declined. I was upgraded on a movie 20 years ago, and unfortunately, that scene was cut and I went uncredited and was listed on IMDb as such. That was fine, but I still deserve the "uncredited" credit on IMDb because it's work that I DID. I'm really getting tired of paying IMDb/Amazon monthly for this service and having so many issues with somebody or "somebotty" messing with it. Please fix this!

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4 years ago

Hello lmcarol,

Can you help us linking your imdb name page for us to help you taking a look? 

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@Fran​ https://pro.imdb.com/name/nm1105676/

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4 years ago

For cast/acting appearances, you must be identifiable and featured on-screen in the final released cut of the title. In other words, it's not enough to have worked on a production: your scenes must be included in the final cut ...

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@Peter_pbn​ The credit had been there for 20 years and suddenly removed after another huge issue with IMDb ADDING CREDITS I DID NOT WORK ON. The whole point is, their system has an issue and needs to be fixed. 

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Hello lmcarol,

I have reinstated the missing credit, the changes will be live on the site shortly!

Cheers!

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@Fran​ Thank you. I appreciate your help. 

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@Fran​ 

According to his own description of the credit and using IMDb's rule that Peter listed above, this credit is not eligible to be listed in the cast. He's not actually in the movie! The scene got cut. If he were credited, it could be listed as "scenes deleted" but he is not credited.

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@adrian​ The issue has rightfully been resolved, but thank you for your input. 

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@lmcarol​ No. It's been incorrectly resolved and violates IMDb's own rules. What's the point of rules if IMDb isn't going to follow them?

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@adrian​ Then, you need to go through all 11.5 million profiles on IMDb and remove every single persons credits, cast or crew, that have “uncredited” credits (actors, stunts, additional crew, puppeteers/Muppeteers, etc). Once you do that… EVERY SINGLE ONE of the 11.5 MILLION, then you can argue your case. 

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Hi, Langley:

Actually, Adrian is correct. This case is not one of those millions of (uncredited) entries in the database...

No one doubts that you worked on that film, but your scene didn't make the final cut (you don't appear in the production) and your name isn't listed in the on-screen credits, so it doesn't meet the eligibility requirements (in other words, it is not enough to have performed a job to deserve the (uncredited) tag).

You can add this work under "Other works", but, according to the rules, it should be removed from your Actor credits.

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@ljdoncel​ I understand your "rules", but the credit (posted by production), had been listed on IMDb for over 2 decades (20+ years). So, as I said in my previous reply unless you go through all 11.5 million profiles and verify and remove every single "uncredited" credit that doesn't fit your "rule" (actors, crew, puppeteers/Muppeteers, and especially EXTRAS who made up their credits - and SOOOOOOO many of those people have), then this argument is over. If you're going to play dictator with this rule, then make sure you get rid of ALL of them. 

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Unless you [...] remove every single "uncredited" credit that doesn't fit your "rule" [...] then this argument is over. If you're going to play dictator with this rule, then make sure you get rid of ALL of them

The next cop who pulls you over for running a red light, tell him that until he stops all the drivers who do it, he can't give you a ticket... and see what happens.

Unfortunately there are many errors in the database, mostly due to lack of knowledge of the rules by the contributors who add the data (sometimes also by people who deliberately manage to cheat the system). The point is that, if such errors are detected (even two decades later), they must be corrected. They will never be 100% eliminated, and the database will never be perfect, but the Nirvana fallacy should not be an excuse to be more permissive in your particular case. Sorry.

Anyway, neither Adrian nor I work for IMDb, we are simply veteran contributors, and our (non-paid) "obligation" is to highlight the inconsistencies we notice in the credits. If any staffer sees this thread and decides to ignore the rules, that's up to them, but the fair thing to do is to follow them in all (detected) cases where they are broken.

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@lmcarol​ 

So, your illegal entry went unnoticed for two decades? What difference does that make? It is still not eligible for inclusion but your own admission. You've been made made aware of the rules, why continue to post when you know for a fact it is not eligible. There's plenty of stuff we try and clean up in this database but it is crowdsourced and that is not always easy. 

This is kind of like admitting you cheated on your taxes for 20 years and then wondering why you are suddenly being audited. That defense won't go over well either.

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Hello All,

Unfortunately lmcarol this credit is not eligible as per our guidelines, I have now deleted it. If you see any other ineligible credit on the site you are welcome to report it.

Cheers!

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@Fran​ Now go through all 11.5 million other profiles and remove all of their “not eligible” credits. I had that IMDb credit (that I earned because I actually did the work) for over 20 years… but thank you for taking it away from me. Now, address 11.5 million others out of fairness. 

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@adrian​ 11.5 million. And you’re a obnoxious jerk. 

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