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@staff - saturday morning cartoon segments problem

Recently I've noticed a problem with the classic television cartoons of the 1960s and 1970s. Many of these consisted of three segments per episode.

Let's say, Space Ghost as a 25-minute program contained three segments, one of which was Dino Boy in the Lost Valley and the other two were stories of the titular Space Ghost.

Several of the segments have been entered BOTH as half-hour episodes AND as individual episodes.

E.g.: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0303512/ and https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061234/

And that isn't the only example...

Question: Which should stay and which should go?

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Other examples include:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11427284

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11427992/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058789/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8832048

(all for same main title as above - so in fact all six cartoon segments)

A second "spanning" title afflicted is https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0244156/ - same problem, the segments from that show that have different characters in them, also have their own entries:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11425668/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11427332/

In this case, unlike the first group of examples, the titular show does not have its own duplicate.

I suspect that the segment-only items are recent "improvements" from Brazil; some of them have Portuguese episode titles and one air date for the entire run.

Like this third example: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15791462 where even the main title is not in English... as before, this cartoon was already covered by https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060026/

Perhaps the language prevented the submitter from finding the existing items. (I feel a bit sorry for the person who spent all this time just to create duplicate entries...) But regardless of who or where, it seems to be a conflicting data situation.

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PS I am meanwhile moving forward with submitting proposals to merge.

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Hi uberhamster -

To clarify, the series itself is shared amongst three segments of different cartoons, with each episode featuring cartoons from these three separate segments, is that correct?

So for the first example you referenced, the series included segments of "Precious Pupp/The Atom Ant/Secret Squirrel Show", and each episode featured a cartoon from each title, is that correct?

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@Michelle​ Yes that's what I mean.The "spanning" entries tend to have episode titles like "segment 1 / segment 2 / segment 3" for that reason.

Or as an example: "Snooper & Blabber" (cartoon) appeared on "the Quick Draw McGraw Show".

If I take just a random story of these cartoon characters as an example, let's say "Gem Jams" in this episode: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1539439/

So the "larger" episode is titled: "El Kabong Was Wrong/Dough Nutty/Gem Jams" to reflect all subsegments.

AND the same "Gem Jams" is here as an episode of a "smaller" TV series: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15792046/

(Note - the duplicates are a problem on series title level, not on episode level; I only used this episode as an example.)

So this has happened for several of these "saturday morning cartoons". Individual entries have been added for segments, that also appear under encompassing ("larger") titles. 

For myself I'd say the "individual" submissions are probably wrong, if the thing is considered logically. Something like these Snooper & Blabber cartoons was "just" a segment on television; it was not sold/programmed as its own title (and didn't have its own theme tune).

I have submitted a few merge requests but they don't seem to have come through yet (it's probably more difficult than the average update).

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