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Tuesday, August 9th, 2022 11:02 PM

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Production Accountant Credit

Production Accountants are Department Heads that oversee $100 Million or more in a season.  We even get on-screen credit as Production Accountant or Production Controller.  Why does IMDB throw them into "Series Additional Crew" with PA's and office staff?  Other department heads such as Art Director, Locations, Transportation or any other department heads are credited accordingly in IMDB to match their on-screen credits.  Production Accountants nationwide would very much appreciate if you would correct this issue.  You can check my last series "Rebel" for ABC or look up my IMDB Kathy Riley I (additional crew) and you will see what it looks like to have been in this business for 30+ years as a department head lumped in with Additional Crew.  United Talent Agency represents Directors of Photography, Assistant Directors, Production Designers, Costume Designers and they are looking to represent Production Accountants now as well.   

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88 Points

1 year ago

Dear IMDB,  

As you can see by the many comments coming from the Accountant's in this post, this

group has long been denied any recognition except "additional crew".  If most people had any

clue what Accountants really deal with day to day on a production, we might actually even get

a sincere "Thank You" from somebody.  Hell.....maybe even a coffee!   I have been in this Accounting world for 30+ years also.  Please give this group of people the respect they deserve.  Every single thing that people have written here is the tip of the iceberg for what they deal with.  Not asking for much!  

@Kathy -  THANK YOU!!

Shari Sontag 

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@SHARISONTAG​ Thanks for your support, Shari!  Love that the numbers are going up today in such a good way.  Fingers crossed that many, many more vote.  IMDb is monitoring the total votes before they make a decision.  Spread the word, please.  

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70 Points

1 year ago

We get screen credit, and we are listed as a separate department (like grips/elect/camera)

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Accountants should have our own listing, not additional crew

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60 Points

1 year ago

We (Accounting Team) are the department the first to start and the last to finish up on every show, well deserve to have our own title department in IMDB Credit. Production Accounting team is so tech involved that we use professional software and APPs to support a show's multi-million operation, from pre-prod, to principle, to post-prod.  IMDB obviously provides a sea of film data and is so helpful for entertainment biz research, but is now out dated, and innovation is needed. 

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60 Points

1 year ago

Hi Kathy - Thanks for asking for this change.  I total agree as I work as a Financial Controller these days.

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72 Points

1 year ago

I am so grateful that Kathy did this, it was long overdo. Without us, things can’t continue, everyone relatively making a part of the production needs to be paid. Millions of dollars shift in and out in minutes. I believe we deserve to have our Titles posted as what they are, how is it that we are additional crew. Additional to me sounds like an extra, could things take place without us. Everyone on a production is important it’s a huge team effort and everyone should be acknowledged as such. 

Lissette Lawson

Assistant Accountant

https://pro.imdb.com/name/nm13866169?s=bec178c2-7887-cab5-dfe8-041d8367b664&site_preference=normal

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60 Points

1 year ago

Thanks Kathy for advocating and Emily for sharing. Agree 100% that this should be rectified and recognized.

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70 Points

1 year ago

Agreed! We should be recognized!

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70 Points

1 year ago

Agreed! We should be recognized!

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60 Points

1 year ago

I agree with Kathy Riley, Accountants should have their own credit category.  Vote YES.

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60 Points

1 year ago

We work long hours as specialized crew.  I don't work "banker's hours" and neither does my team.  Accountants need to be thought of as an integral part of the whole process.  IMDB should realize that we deserve more that being lumped into the "Additional Crew" category.  Every last one of the crew is doing their jobs to make the Director's vision come alive....even Accounting.

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60 Points

1 year ago

Completely agree! 

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60 Points

1 year ago

Production Accountants are not only department heads but are required to interact with ALL depts on a production.  We report to the studios, ex producers, etc and are on the productions from beginning of prep to halfway through post.  It is not an inconsequential production position.

I would also like to see my staff separated from the masses as I use IMDB to vet future hires.

Thank you

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60 Points

1 year ago

They call it show BUSINESS for a reason. No entity is funding any of these projects to lose money. Accountability is more vital than ever to the continued production of content. Our role is the protect the financial interest of the financier, service, distribute and account for the agreed upon money invested , and collaborate with producers and the studio  on status, estimates, and recommendations on production execution and spending. Covid protocols, converting to all digital, and a twofold increase in the amount of financial reporting have all added  to our current challenges. It’s beyond insane to think we are not in our own category in IMDB yet. Thank you Kathy for spearheading this. Kevin

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@Kmceveety​ You summarized what our role truly is in this business perfectly, Kevin!  Thank you for showing up and supporting this effort in such a terrific way.  Please spread the word to all of your family and "friends over there" so we can get this vote past 146!  I can start many things; but by myself, I won't accomplish much.  In order to effect real change, WE need the ENTIRE production accounting community to get involved.  I have more things on the horizon...hopefully, this effort is just the beginning :)

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60 Points

1 year ago

Accountants are the financial life force of a production.  The Accounting team are usually the first folks on a given project and the last to leave, often carrying on through Prep, Production and Post Production.  Nothing happens if the crew and creative talent do not get paid.  There are no supplies, equipment, props, costumes, etc. if those vendors do not get paid.  Only Accounting and the Production office interact with every single person on a production.  Yet, to quote Rodney D., we get no respect, I tell ya, no respect.  Let's turn that around and show respect for the profession and the incredibly hard working crew who make the money flow.  Their own catagory on IMDb is the least you can do.

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60 Points

1 year ago

I wholeheartedly agree.  Production accountants and controllers should be listed as such in IMDB.  Why should people new to the business, with little or no experience, get to be listed in such categories as "producers" when - if they quit - they would never be missed.  But the finance people, with whom the financial stability of the project rests, are merely "miscellaneous crew".  IMDB needs to adjust its credits to reflect importance!

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@ptownmike​ Thanks for your support!!!