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Tuesday, August 9th, 2022 11:02 PM

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Production Accountant Credit

Production Accountants are Department Heads that oversee $100 Million or more in a season.  We even get on-screen credit as Production Accountant or Production Controller.  Why does IMDB throw them into "Series Additional Crew" with PA's and office staff?  Other department heads such as Art Director, Locations, Transportation or any other department heads are credited accordingly in IMDB to match their on-screen credits.  Production Accountants nationwide would very much appreciate if you would correct this issue.  You can check my last series "Rebel" for ABC or look up my IMDB Kathy Riley I (additional crew) and you will see what it looks like to have been in this business for 30+ years as a department head lumped in with Additional Crew.  United Talent Agency represents Directors of Photography, Assistant Directors, Production Designers, Costume Designers and they are looking to represent Production Accountants now as well.   

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62 Points

1 year ago

I'm so happy about this - I've been a Production Accountant on maybe 100 projects and I would like to be out of "Additional Crew" - we are the first people hired and the last people off.  We work so closely with producers that some accountants have negotiated Assoc Prod credits.  We should have our own Category!

Emily Rice

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@EmilyRice​ Thank you, as always, for your support, Emily!!!

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60 Points

1 year ago

We are a vital department and should be owed the respect, acknowledgement and visibility as any other department head.

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@tjtucker62​ Right on Tim, thanks for the support!

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80 Points

1 year ago

I agree! We deserve our own department!

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80 Points

1 year ago

I agreed! We deserve our own department!

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80 Points

1 year ago

I agree! We deserve our own department 

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128 Points

1 year ago

Accountants, Controllers and their staffs have been getting the short end of it for the entirety of my 4 decade career.  It's bad enough to get screen credit after the PA's and Craft Service department when we're expected to not only manage multi-million dollar budgets, but answer for them as well.  IMDb piles on by not even giving us appropriate categories, for reference to propspective Producers and Studio Execs, if nothing else.  There are multiple IATSE locals for us so how can we not be considered a unique department and have our own category??  Accounting is the only department that would bring a show and it's studio to their knees if we weren't out there protecting their interests (read MONEY).  We're expected to be the Scorekeepers/CPA's/Compliance Officers/Policy Enforcers/Labor Relations/HR/Co-Producers/Therapists to everyone from the Producers to the PA's - particularly on Tier 1 projects.  I'm just sayin'...

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@Ampasstime​ YESSSSS!! WELL SAID!!!! #IBowDownToThis

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@Ampasstime  I heartily agree...I've tried to summarize the MANY hats we wear for people that scratch their head when trying to figure out why our jobs are so demanding! #IBowDownToThis

as well!!!

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60 Points

1 year ago

Done!

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70 Points

1 year ago

I am a production accountant and financial controller for over 40 years.  I have been recognized in the Marquis Who's Who in America as a Production Accountant/Financial Controller.  If Who's Who can recognize this classification, I would think that IMDB could also.  Check out Wall Street Journal September 7, 2022 issue.  You will see a picture of me along with other prominent people who are recognized for their work in their field.

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@MeryleSelinger​ Thanks for your support, Meryle!  I hope we get MANY more votes!  Maybe one day the fact that our credits in IMDb don't match our onscreen credits AND that we are lumped in with "Additional Crew"  will be a distant memory for us all!

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70 Points

1 year ago

I am a production accountant/financial controller for over 40 years.  We have never had the recognition that our department truly deserves.  I have now been inducted into the Marquis Who's Who in America as a Production Accountant/Financial Controller and have been recognized By Marquis Who's Who for a Lifetime Achievement Award which will be published in the Wall Street Journal on September 7, 2022 paper edition.   If Who's Who recognizes the importance of this position, why can't our own industry recognize us?  

Meryle Selinger

Production Accountant/Financial Controller

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@MeryleSelinger​ Congratulations!! That's such great news!

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60 Points

1 year ago

We, Accountants, are far overdue for a separate category!  We are a specific department, like others already listed, and should have equitable recognition on this platform!

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70 Points

1 year ago

Yes we need it

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70 Points

1 year ago

Agree

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80 Points

1 year ago

Yes, this would be great and boost the exposure and recognition of production accounting. It appears that production accounting is not deemed valuable, when in fact the production can’t function without the money. We impact each single crew each day through A/P and Payroll. It seems to me that the finance department is the most powerful department to productions.  But a question, would the finance staff specifically Payroll fall under the new category, too?

N. Ann Hall

Payroll Accountant

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@Ninaannhall​ If I'm understanding correctly, the intention is to start with Production Accountants/Controllers, but in my mind, the whole team should belong in the requested Production Accountant/Controller department on IMDb.

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80 Points

Yes, I agree, and hope that’s how it goes down. But I don’t like to assume. I am just happy that the conversation is being held publicly to highlight the value of Production Accounting.

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@Ninaannhall​  I would imagine if they have an Accountant/Controller category that assistants would be able to list under that and simply select their titles.  In my mind, this would include all assitants including our clerks - or at least it should.  There's absolutely no unemportant role in the accounting department.  If we didn't need them, we wouldn't have them.  The 2nds and clerks are the oars of the departments.  They have the unenviale job of paddling through stacks and stacks of docs, yet there have been times I've had to fight harder to add an additional clerk than an additional 2nd Assistant.  True story.

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I started with the department heads because those are typically credited on-screen.  I hoped the request for IMDb to match our on-screen credit instead of lumping us in with "Additional Crew" would be something IMDb could modify with minimal complications.

I am so pleased when the credits roll and I see that the entire accounting department is recognized; of course, features are leading the way in that area.  We've made significant progress from when I started in this business.  There's still more work to be done.  THANK YOU ALL for your support!

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60 Points

1 year ago

Agreed. Production accountants should no longer be dumped into “additional crew” 

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60 Points

1 year ago

Thank you Kathy.  This is a long time coming.  Accounting is integral to process.  We are definitely more than miscellaneous crew.