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Polizeiruf 110 Title Hi-jack

The German TV show Polizeiruf 110 has now been around for 50 years.  Up until recently it has always appeared by that title on IMDB.  This past Saturday, 16 Oct 21, I was looking through the credits for a different German show that I had just watched and was looking up the credits for one of the actresses on that show.  I know that she had appeared on Polizeiruf 110 as the character Katrin König for over 20 episodes.  I saw her listed under a show that I had never seen listed before as Silent Hunt, but no listing for Polizeiruf 110.  As it turns out, some person has managed to change the title of Polizeiruf 110 to Silent Hunt.  They even changed to plot summary to read all about detectives Bukow and König even though they are just one of a number of detective teams on the show.  I tried doing a title change but nobody at IMDB has seen fit to change it back.  As can be seen at this URL:

https://www.daserste.de/unterhaltung/krimi/polizeiruf-110/index.html

the title of the show has NEVER changed!  There is no "Contact Us" button or link for IMDB so if somebody knows somebody who can fix the damn thing would please get that information to them it would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Dave Shreeve

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"Silent Hunt" is now listed as an alternative title (like "Bukow and König") instead of as a display title, so it should no longer appear in filmography pages.

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@Peter_pbn Thank you!

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Good, finally it happened before more false claims being made in this thread to solve a simple display title issue :)

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It only has Silent Hunt listed as an American title, which may be displayed to users who are in the USA or have chosen to see US titles.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0806901/releaseinfo

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WRONG!!!!!!!  MHz Choice is the only channel that shows a portion of the show here in the States and in Canada on their streaming service.  They label it as Bukow and König.  There is more to the show than just Bukow and König (Although I do like those episodes very much and have what DV).Ds have been made available).  The fact of the matter is that until sometime recently it was always shown as Polizeiruf 110 and the title of the program has NEVER been changed!  IMDB needs to fix it NOW!  If somebody can get away with it on a show that most have never seen, what will stop them from doing it to something that most people watch or are aware of?????

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Some German series is called ”Silent Hunt”, but is that the wrong one?

”Due April 30 is the German eight-episode series “Silent Hunt.” It follows an aristocrat by birth and gentleman by nature, Detective Hanns von Meuffeels, who brings a unique but effective approach to police work. He draws a suspect in with the power of good investigative skills and a well-practiced silence. Von Meuffels applies his own particular investigative style to reveal the truth, often confronting his own past and mistakes in the process, on cases involving satellite control systems for the arms industry, Turkish extremists, international money laundering, among others.”

Link (PBS Masterpiece Prime Video Channel): https://www.mediaplaynews.com/face-to-face-box-21-among-walter-presents-programs-on-pbs-masterpiece-prime-video-channel-in-april/

Silent Hunt premieres in the US on Friday, April 30, 2021 exclusively on the PBS Masterpiece Prime Video Channel and the Walter Presents digital channels.”

Link: https://theeurotvplace.com/2021/03/euro-tv-premieres-in-april-2021-man-in-room301-an-ordinary-woman-we-children-from-bahnhof-zoo-more/

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@eboy

That is definitely a different show if it is being shown on PBS.  Polizeiruf 110 is only shown on MHZ Choice in the U.S. and Canada.  I doubt if "Silent Hunt" will be in German with English subtitles like Polizeiruf 110.

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Silent Hunt is not a different series, it looks like it's just the name of a release for US audience of some episodes of the series packaged (looks like episodes centered around the "Hanns von Meuffels" character)

1- Children’s Paradise - Kinderparadies - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2848720/
2- Daybreak - Morgengrauen - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3909206/
3- Smoke on the Water - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4129044/
4- Circles - Kreise - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4794012/
5- And Forgive Us Our Sins - Und vergib uns unsere Schuld - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4778282/
6- Wetlands - Sumpfgebiete - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5573204/
7- Night Shift - Nachtdienst - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6837848/
8- The Illusion of Freedom - Das Gespenst der Freiheit - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7884944/

So I think OP has a point. Name of the release of a thematic episode package probably shouldn't be a main display title, it should be an alternate title. "Police Call 110" looks fitting for the main English title.

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Changing "Silent Hunt" to "alternative title" sounds right.

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From eboy's message, since Silent Hunt was shown on PBS, it is a totally different show.  

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Different show? Please explain? The question here is not to remove the (alternate) title ”Silent Hunt”. It just should be corrected to ”alternate title” in the US.

I would also add the info about this to ”Alternate versions” section. If some selected episodes of ”Polizeiruf 110” are ”packaged” to a series called ”Silent Hunt”.

( From the guide: ”There can only be one imdb display title for the same country and language. The others must use alternative title or more specific attributes.” )

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Your link for Silent Hunt was for PBS's Masterpiece series.  I have never known  PBS to show a program that was shot in a language other than English.  Polizeiruf 110 is a totally German show done by the stations that make up, IIRC, the ARD network.  The actors all speak in German, the show is shown in Germany, and it is only seen in the U.S. and Canada on the MHz Choice streaming channel.  All of the shows on MHz Choice are filmed in the language of the country of origin.  They have shows from Germany, France, Italy, etc, etc.  I am not aware of any of the programs that they offer on MHz Choice being shown on PBS.

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Well, it seems to be in Amazon Prime (US):

https://www.amazon.com/Silent-Hunt-Season-1/dp/B093K54SNR

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MHz Choice has exclusive rights to all the programs that they show in the U.S. and Canada.  You will not find shows like Tatort, Wilsberg, Anti-Mafia Squad, or Bukow and König (part of the Polizeiruf 110 family of detective teams) anywhere else.

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The point was that someone from the US (and with Prime) could probably actually check the series, since all this feels like speculation.

Streaming has pretty much changed all the rules how the series are aired, and ”international” series are sold to the US streaming channels all the time. And sometimes they’re ”pachaged” differently (sometimes with different ”seasons” and episodes than originally).

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Silent Hunt is a totally different series.  I checked your PBS link and that was for a streaming service where they will now bring in foreign language programs.  I looked at the link for the first episode listed.  It is from 2013.  I checked the English Wikipedia page for Polizeiruf 110.  It is here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polizeiruf_110

There is no mention of a detective named Hanns von Meuffels.  Then I went to the official Polizeiruf 110 website and looked up the different detective teams of the 50 years of the series so far.  The list is broken up into current teams and previous teams.  That list can be found here:

https://www.daserste.de/unterhaltung/krimi/polizeiruf-110/ermittler/index.html

The Tab name for the detectives in German is Die Ermittler.  Once again, there is NO Hanns von Meuffels.  This tells me, like I already knew, that Silent Hunt and Polizeiruf 110 are TWO SEPARATE SERIES.  Again I ask, am I just chasing my tail or is somebody in management at IMDB going to get off their butts and fix this damn thing?

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Von Meuffels is mentioned in the official site's list of former detectives and in the list of cases.

In other words, it would be a mistake for IMDb to rely on your misguided assertions.

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I went back over things and finally saw where Van Meuffels has been on Polizeiruf 110, HOWEVER, do you rename the show for just the one detective?  The character of Van Meuffels was seen in only 15 episodes, Bukow and König have been in 23!  The answer of course is NO!  Do you call it an alternative US title?  Again, NO!  The show has had over 350 episodes so neither of the two sets of detectives I mentioned have been seen in even 10% of the episodes.  Leave the title as it is, Polizeiruf 110.  If the powers that be want to have it as Silent Hunt, then they should list it as a separate program, and leave Polizeiruf 110 alone.  When I want to look up something about a Bukow and König episode, I look first for Charly Hübner (Bukow) and then Polizeiruf 110 and then the name of the episode.  When I did that last Saturday for Anneka Kim Sarnau after seeing her in an episode of Tatort, Polizeiruf 110 was not listed.  I then noticed that her character of Katrin König was listed under Silent Hunt.  This is confusing to people and especially since somebody did it for a detective that only appears in 15 episodes.  Who the hell changed it to Silent Hunt from Polizeiruf 110, I don't know but I am starting to get some ideas that I will keep to myself.

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You made things look more complicated than it actually is. I don't know why you went on to claim "Van Meuffels" was not on series when I literally linked imdb pages of the episodes where he was featured. It was a simple Alternate Title issue like said which looks fixed thanks to Peter.

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Somebody seems to get it.  Again, somebody went in and changed the series title of Polizeiruf 110 to Silent Hunt, either accidentally, or because they wanted to cause problems.  Is anybody in management at IMDB going to fix it or am I just chasing my tail and nobody at IMDB is going to see this or bother to fix it?

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Hi e8n2 -

As you mentioned on your other thread post, the series title is now displaying correctly under the text "Polizeiruf 110".  "Silent Hunt" is now listed as an Alternate US title.

Cheers!

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The title has been changed again!  Now it is called Police Call 110, which would be the English translation of Polizeiruf 110.  HOWEVER I am not aware of any American channel calling it by the English name.  Is there any English language channel calling Polizeiruf 110 Police Call 110?  If so, who is doing it?  If not, then it needs to go back to its German language title.

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@e8n2 https://www.imdb.com/preferences/general -> Title display country/region -> Select 'Original" or "Germany" -> Save -> Enjoy.

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Took a little bit but that seemed to work.  Don't know why I had to make the change though because it was working normally for years up until just a couple of weeks ago.  Thanks for your help.