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need character search

Character search is needed in the following ways:
1) Within Name search, so we get all the Actors who performed the character
2) Within Advanced Title Search, so we get all the Titles that include the character
3) Within Filmography, Refine by Character.

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I strongly support bderoes's idea. This capability would be extremely helpful in creating polls based on characters. I voted for this idea and recommend that all poll authors likewise do so.

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For instance in Star Wars when characters are all wierded up and maybe you don’t know the name of the characters you can see pictures of them in makeup so you can actually figure out who was who

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and You added  a comment here ? ?

Announcement
Updates to Characters
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/changes-to-imdb-characters
 
Today we are modifying the display of Characters across IMDb.
 After in-depth discussion and examination,
we have decided to simplify the display of Characters on IMDb,
focusing our on-going efforts towards title specific character details.
While in concept, we love the idea of character data spanning across all titles,
in practice we do not feel our past experience lived up to expectations.
The majority of our previous character pages were dead ends...

Nic Bachhuber, Employee
Posted 3 years ago (November 14 2017)
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1 y ago

The problem with this idea is that it will not separate the character by continuity. Spider-Man has been played by many actors and has appeared in many titles, but they are not all the same character. Toby Maguire's Spider-Man is not Tom Holland's Spider-Man. Into the Spider Verse has many actors who voiced many Spider-Man characters, but they are not the same Spider-Man either.

I would not want the characters from the last two awful Dukes of Hazzard films in any list for the characters from the original Dukes of Hazzard. I don't want to see the characters from the awful 21 Jump Street films listed with the characters from the 21 Jump Street television series either.

I want character pages back so that continuities can be maintained for each character who appeared in two or more separate movies or series. Also, sometimes a full character name isn't used in the credits of a movie or series for a character from another movie or series. For example, the character Cheyenne Bodie from Cheyenne is credited as only Cheyenne in The Gambler Returns: The Luck of the Draw. So searching for this specific character would require several searches to find all of the works where he appeared.

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Since IMDb deprecated character pages, there has been a need to be able to search for characters across titles. Ideally, it would be very helpful for IMDb to implement a character search with capabilities similar to the one that bderoes describes in her original post in this thread. As an interim partial solution, one can use this search text within Google:

site:imdb.com/title/*/characters/* {character}

Where:

{character} is a specific character.

 

For example:

site:imdb.com/title/*/characters/* superman

produces character pages related to superman.

https://www.google.com/search?&q=site%3Aimdb.com%2Ftitle%2F*%2Fcharacters%2F*+superman

 

This is another Google search that may be helpful: site:imdb.com/title/*/characters/{NameID} {character}

Where:

{NameID} is the name ID for a specific actor.

{character} is a specific character.

 

nm0001660 is the name ID for George Reeves

For instance, this search returns the character pages for titles in which George Reeves plays Superman:

 

site:imdb.com/title/*/characters/nm0001660 superman

https://www.google.com/search?&q=site:imdb.com/title/*/characters/nm0001660%20superman

 

This is another Google search that may be helpful: site:imdb.com/title/*/characters/* {character} {ActorName}

Where:

{character} is a specific character.

{ActorName} is the name of an actor / actress

For instance, this Google search returns character pages for George Reeves playing superman.

site:imdb.com/title/*/characters/* superman "George Reeves"

https://www.google.com/search?&q=site:imdb.com/title/*/characters/*%20superman%20%22George%20Reeves%22

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Dan,

Thank you for sharing the use of * in google search!

 

I don't know why you would google search for character pages WITHIN an actor's filmography. If you just use the Show All feature on their Name Page, and display all episodes (if you restrict that in your settings), you can find all the instances with a browser search. Not every filmography credit gets a Character page, after all.

For George Reeves, I find 172 instances of Superman on his page, while the google search 

https://www.google.com/search?&q=site:imdb.com/title/*/characters/nm0001660%20superman

finds 68.

 

Similarly, for this search, where you look for character pages using the actor's name and the character name

https://www.google.com/search?&q=site:imdb.com/title/*/characters/*%20superman%20%22George%20Reeves%22

  1. you'll miss a lot because a character page is not present for each occurence,
  2. you'll get a lot of extra stuff where google finds one or the other

You get fewer results if you join them with a plus:  superman+"george reeves", but still get junk like this page:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044231/characters/nm0489001

 

To get around the spotty occurence of character pages on IMDb, I would suggest using the fullcredits page instead.

So search for 

superman site:imdb.com/title/*/fullcredits

But the 3040 results will not really be available to you. Even skipping ahead using the page number links at the bottom of the results page, I get to page 26, still seeing 3040 as the number of results, but on page 27 it's down to 267.

 

This NOT an anomaly. I recently tried using google to scrape certain information from IMDb, and got miserable results. Even though google said it found 4500+ results, it would only show me <300. And when it asked if I wanted to see more, it would never get beyond the 300 (or less) limit.

 

Google is built for finding a few things relevant to your search, not for data mining.

 

If my original post were implemented, we could really use the database as such.

 

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bderoes wrote:

Google is built for finding a few things relevant to your search, not for data mining.

 

If my original post were implemented, we could really use the database as such.

I fully agree.

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@dan_dassow

 

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Just a comment for you...

site:imdb.com/title/*/characters/* superman

https://www.google.com/search?&q=site%3Aimdb.com%2Ftitle%2F*%2Fcharacters%2F*+superman

4,580 results (0.43 seconds) 

 

Do not need all that Google tracking info...

&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwAzIHCAAQRxCwA1AAWABgrpgIaAFwAHgAgAEAiAEAkgEAmAEAqgEHZ3dzLXdpesgBCMABAQ&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwjzns_Tm7nsAhVXXc0KHRr-C9s4HhDh1QMIDA&uact=5

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Thanks, ACT_1. I updated my post accordingly.

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This discussion appears fairly pointless. It has been several years since the handy character pages have been removed. Let's just face it, IMDb wants to make money and so removed everything it deemed as cruft. We will just have to keep track of who is which Superman in the various Superman franchises on our own without this, now kneecapped, database. I would suggest going over to Fandom and starting a character database there. We will never get one back here or even a way to make a faux character listing.

 

I've been watching this thread and others like it going nowhere for way too long. It is pointless.

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(Just noticed my own vote for this has been lost in the conversion from GS to sprinklr.)

 

I suspect that Dan used Superman as an example, and was not actually seeking all the Superman titles.

 

I'd be surprised if Fandom didn't already have a Superman listing. I've certainly used them for other character lists. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't continue to request it on IMDb.

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I was continuing the use of Superman as an example, though my favorite character example is John Munch who started on Homicide: Life on the Street then appeared on The X-Files then transferred to Law & Order: Special Victims Unit and also appeared in The Beat, Arrested Development, and The Wire.

 

We have no way to track that now, and probably will never have it again.

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I think IMDb could provide it easily, if they just put forth the effort.

Results might not be perfect, but a simple query on the Character field would at least get the user started.

That user might then be motivated to curate the data into something like this:

All The TV And Movie Universes That Are Unified By Detective Munch

(found with google of "john munch" site:imdb.com/list)

 

My character needs have been more detailed. Bugs Bunny comes to mind. (Hence my having used Fandom.)

Bugs Bunny - as voiced by Mel Blanc

 

Seems like Col_Needham implied a forthcoming replacement feature back when the prior pages were removed. (Link to Nov 2017 post):

 

The correct way to do this is with a proper data model tied to the underlying credit database, backed with a full search; available across all IMDb interfaces. Once this is built, you will be able to find all instances of a character name across titles without requiring another contributor to have done essentially duplicate work to manually add each character credit to a separate character page. 

 

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@lady_aleena To be honest, there is a ton of specified Fandom/Wikia projects. 

 

And, in case of John Munch, character is so known he has his own Wikipedia page.