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Mon, Mar 9, 2020 7:52 AM

Genre addition auto-rejection: not enough evidence

Contribution #200307-101039-787000:

I submitted a genre addition for this film: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1220198/, but it was instantly auto-declined for the following reason, even though I provided quite a bit of evidence including 3 links to support my submission:

"Not enough evidence.
Your contribution has been declined. We have been unable to verify your contribution. Unfortunately we were unable to accept your submission as we were unable to verify the information provided. Please see our Help Site for further information or details on how to contact us."


Contribution #200307-102732-286000:

I removed the links, assuming it may have been instantly auto-declined before due to this, b/c how would the system know in a split-second if a subjective genre shouldn't be added?  But it was still declined for the exact same reason.  How much more info do I need to provide to support one genre addition, and exactly what is required for sufficient evidence?

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Il y a 2 y

As mentioned this submission was rejected because there was a block on the genre horror from being added. However there is no note explaining the reason for this. I have reviewed the title and agree that the addition of the genre horror is appropriate. I have added this.

I see that the feedback you received about your submission being rejected was unhelpful in this situation, I have raised this with the appropriate team to investigate further.

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Thank you, Niall for the approval & explanation, and Ed for letting me know what would have most likely caused the auto-rejection.

Niall, is it possible to have my original submission approved so it counts toward my total contributions?

Also, I had 2 images declined here for a reason I don't understand: "Reason: Related item has been declined. Your data referred to another item...".  These are perfect HQ movie cover/poster images.  The first one is a higher res version of this image, so it should replace it.  The 2nd one has no duplicate:
#200425-204510-898902
#200425-204548-449902

Additionally, there were some other titles I felt strongly should have Horror added to the genres as well, two of the most obvious being Cube & Cube 2.  I submitted a genre addition for all of these as well and they were also auto-rejected (as I expected since they're all older and well-known), but the message was updated to include that "the item submitted to has been blocked by staff" – so it's a lot clearer now.  However, there is a typo in the reasoning: "Your contribution has been declined." is stated twice in a row.  It would also be helpful if the genre comment box used to include an explanation was updated so that it didn't remove text formatting, at least keeping the line breaks.

The 2 main elements incorporated into horror are terror and gore.  Cube has both: varying levels of fear & terror running throughout most of the film, and gore during the kill scenes.  Fear and paranoia intensify as a group of people contained in a giant, demented, and nearly inescapable "Saw"-like, Rubix Cube death trap machine await an inevitable and terrifying mutilation displayed in graphic detail.  For ex: https://youtu.be/YnuRpHkg0H8?t=177.  These 2 really boggle me as to how the genre could have been rejected.  "Devil" (listed as Horror) was a similar environment (a small group trapped in an elevator) but far less terrifying and graphic than Cube.  And two of the taglines for Cube 2 were "Terror has a new dimension" & "Welcome to a new dimension in fear".  Both Cube 1 & 2 are available to stream for free on IMDb too.

I'd like to use Rosemary's Baby & Blood and Black Lace as a means for comparison (both listed as Horror).  More than 90% of Rosemary's Baby is drama, very light and calm drama, that is, with only a couple of scenes that are horror (the dream impregnation and the ending from what I recall), though I do still feel it's a horror film.  Blood and Black Lace has probably less than a minute of it in total (from what I recall from a recent viewing, really just the hot fire iron to the woman's face).  All the titles I'm including here have a lot more terror/gore than both of these films.

Regarding the IMDb definition, is repugnance really the ideal term to accompany terror?  B/c the way it's defined in the dictionary, "distasteful, objectionable, or offensive", is extremely subjective and could apply to most genres, really anything that isn't aligned with the viewer's personal taste, or anything that would warrant an R rating for that matter.  Repugnance includes gore, but gore is the extreme of repugnance.

The other auto-rejected titles are Aliens, Predator, American Psycho, The Silence of the Lambs, Misery, Donnie Darko, & The Sixth Sense.  I included links/references/explanations for them in my submissions.  Can you please take a look at these too?

200406-051641-064000
200406-053744-551000
200406-044537-602000
200406-045749-675000
200427-210639-101000
200427-222227-256000
200427-223415-118000
200427-233008-566000
200428-003131-833000

Note that Alien vs. Predator is listed as Horror but is less scary than the original Predator and the Aliens sequel.

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Hi there, please reach out to us via our message system to chase any further contribution, thank you! 

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Il y a 2 y

Hi,

I am closing this thread. As my colleague advised, if you have further contributions that you wish us to investigate then please reach out https://help.imdb.com/contact to one of our customer service agents for assistance.