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Mon, Feb 18, 2019 1:13 AM

Fake ratings for a movie

I don't have any idea if anyone at IMDB will see this but anyway...

I'm here to talk about fake reviews targeting a unreleased movie. And to explain every single part of that, I should talk about the political situation that Brazil is living, but no, I don't have time, patience and knowledge to talk about, so i'll be fast on this (also my english s****).

In a nutshell, a lot of people are propositally rating the film as 1/10 because of divergent political opinion!

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2 years ago

https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/i-want-to-rate-mariguella-https-www-imdb-com-title-tt7825208
I want to rate "Mariguella"
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7825208
rating option don't appear. Why?
by esmeralda .
Joined on February 18, 2019
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/people/esmeralda_2z4r5h8xzrhov
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Vincent Fournols :
Now, considering the controversies that are raging
in another topic around this film,
it may be that IMDb has suspended ratings while the situation cools off.
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Does IMDb reset votes when being available again?
What do you think? I have to admit, probably I would have rated, maybe stopped, thinking about "hmm no" =)

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2 years ago

I see that Marighella has been shut off from receiving votes altogether. This appears to go against IMDb policy as stated at https://help.imdb.com/article/imdb/track-movies-tv/faq-for-imdb-ratings/G67Y87TFYYP6TWAV# (emphasis added):
Various filters are applied to the raw data in order to eliminate and reduce attempts at vote stuffing by people more interested in changing the current rating of a movie than giving their true opinion of it. In order to ensure that our rating mechanism remains effective, we do not disclose the exact method used to generate the rating. However, please rest assured that the same calculations are used to generate the rating for every title listed in the database: we don’t adjust the rating for individual titles. There is no bias in how votes are weighted based on which title they have been cast for. ...

In rare instances, usually centered around movies whose content or subject matter are perceived as controversial or polarizing, we may notice efforts to influence the user rating for a title via organized mass voting campaigns and other similar tactics.

While it is our policy not to remove valid votes, please remember that IMDb already calculates weighted user averages using a mechanism, applied to all titles, which takes into consideration numerous techniques to artificially inflate/deflate a title's rating, and attempts to neutralize their impact.
I note that when The Promise (2016) had only been shown at one film festival and yet received thousands of politically motivated 1/10 votes, IMDb did not cut off voting for that film to protect it from negative votes. (See the discussion here and here.) Why, then, is Marighella receiving protection from negative votes? The same vote-weighting is supposed to be applied to all titles in the database.

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I note that when The Promise (2016) had only been shown at one film festival and yet received thousands of politically motivated 1/10 votes, IMDb did not cut off voting for that film to protect it from negative votes. (See the discussion here and here.) Why, then, is Marighella receiving protection from negative votes? The same vote-weighting is supposed to be applied to all titles in the database.
This because we evaluated the policy after the incident with The Promise and made policy changes for exactly this situation ... a one-off screening at a festival being spammed with reviews / votes (whether good or bad) which are mostly from people who could not possibly have seen it may cause us to block voting / reviewing on the title until such time as it is generally released somewhere. We have actually done this with other titles since 2016. 

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February 20, 2019

All this could be way much more fun on the IMDb Message Board

Marighella  (2019)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7825208/board/

oooopppssss :-(

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Not much terrorist chat here ... yet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marighella_(2019)
Marighella (2019)
Marighella is a Brazilian movie to be released in 2019, directed by Wagner Moura
Created 19 February 2019‎ by User: ThiagoSousaSilveira

Someone should add a link here to the IMDb page ? ?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7825208

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EDIT
Added to Wiki page by _?_ Feb 20 after the above posted

Reception
The movie debuted at the 69th Berlin International Film Festival
on February 14, 2019,
but did not participate for the Golden Bear Award.

Several sources reported that internet bots
were used to reduce the movie rating on the IMDb website.
In response, IMDb deactivated ratings on the film's page.
By February 18, 2019,
the movie had more than 15000 ratings on IMDb
although the movie has not been released in theatres

References :

https://www.vice.com/pt_br/article/d3mxzw/bots-tentaram-derrubar-nota-de-marighella-no-imdb-mas-nao-...

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This because we evaluated the policy after the incident with The Promise and made policy changes for exactly this situation ... a one-off screening at a festival being spammed with reviews / votes (whether good or bad) which are mostly from people who could not possibly have seen it may cause us to block voting / reviewing on the title until such time as it is generally released somewhere. We have actually done this with other titles since 2016.

Thanks for letting us know. It's a pity measures like this should be taken, but with such great numbers of people willing to lie and vote for a title they haven't seen, I think this is the best thing to do.

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2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Why IMDb has deleted the reviews from users about the movie Marighella?.

Why a respected service like that has deleted the reviews from users about the movie Marighella?

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt7825208/

The reviews are from legitimate users who have come to give their opinion and discontent about this unethical movie by exalting a terrorist. Is it serious that IMDb is not interested in the true opinion of its users? Are they going to lose credibility like that?

This great amount of reviews did not happen because of political differences, it was due to the Brazilians' revolt at seeing a terrorist assassin being exalted in a movie as if it were a hero. It was the revolt of the Brazilians to see the money of the taxpayers being used to manufacture an immoral lie

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2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled About the completely undemocratic and biased to removement of the evaluations of ....

It is completely undemocratic and biased to remove the evaluations of the film Marighella for denunciation of political act. It is an unprecedented and unsubstantiated decision but the word of another. Do not lose your credibility as a world reference in film assessments because of a militant pothead like director Wagner Moura. If there are disgruntled people with the film we have the right to misjudge at any time. What happens when the film is effectively distributed? We'il vote equally. Please restaud the evaluations, please restore your credibility. Grateful, Eduardo

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I do object that IMDb has removed all ratings form that film, but I object much stronger that 20000 ratings were given to a film (which just had a couple of projections in Berlin) on political grounds tackled by the film instead of rating the film itself.

Furthermore:
It is completely undemocratic and biased to remove the evaluations
IMDb is not a political system but a data (credits) registry. Democracy has nothing to do with its management, let alone by a private corporation.

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Hi Ed, I think you are right. And the country is Brazil. Moreover, I am not sure that the 20000 votes pointed out by ACT were government driven but screenshots of facebook posts in portuguese have been posted here, testifying there were calls to vote negatively against the film, when it has been shown only in Berlin so far.

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2 years ago

https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/marighella-s-rate-and-comments-censored

Marighella’s rate and comments censored
Why the rate and comments of Marighella movie were removed?
I think this is censorship, right?
Wagner Moura called you guys crying and asked to remove it?
Come on!!!

Posted February 19, 2019
by Paulo Holdorf
Joined on February 19, 2019
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/people/paulo_holdorf
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2 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Marighella’s rate and comments censored.

Why the rate and comments of Marighella movie were removed? I think this is censorship, right? Wagner Moura called you guys crying and asked to remove it? Come on!!!

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a year ago

The movie was a failure, they lost money, it did nothing to hide the option to rate the movie or do a review.

https://veja.abril.com.br/blog/radar/ancine-veta-pedido-milionario-de-produtora-do-longa-marighella/

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10 months ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Marighella ratings.

The brazilian movie Marighella, despite the fact that it didn't even been released in Brazil (it was censored by the fascist government) is now with incredible 42.200 votes, most of it coming from brazilian fascists who mobilize themselves to give the movie (about a libertarian guerrilla leader) low ratings (it is now with 3.0). Again IMDb is losing credibility by allowing this kind of attitude by people who didn't even see the movies. It is a disrespect with the users, the moviemakers and with cinema in general.