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Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:48 PM

Fake Profiles Created to Fool People

The following pages are fake:
Karl Atticus http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5637108/
Culture Shock (1969) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2963536/

They are fake pages for this movie Mortal Remains (2012) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2963536/ which should have the documentary tag removed as it is pure fiction. The creators just made fake pages on this site as well as Wikipedia to fool some people into thinking their movie is real.

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7 years ago

Emperor,

My apologies... I wasn't referring to you... I was referring to "Jonathan", who seems to have created an account just to bring this to our attention.

I also noticed that whoever had the Wikipedia pages deleted, erased their wiki account hours later. This seems particularity suspicious, don't you think? A bit of sabotage perhaps? I am new to this filmmaker mythos (Karl Atticus that is), so I don't know much about his validity. What I do know is that it seems their maybe something more going on here; fake sites aside. That's all.

To assure you... I would assume that if the filmmakers are on a "festival run" as was suggested prior, they don't have time to be bothering with us here. They have bigger things going on... yes?

P.S. In full disclosure... I should admit I am a conspiracy theorist.

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7 years ago

I also noticed that whoever had the Wikipedia pages deleted, erased their wiki account hours later. This seems particularity suspicious, don't you think?


Perhaps, it is was true. Someone couldn't set up a "hit and run" account to delete articles on Wikipedia, it needs an administrator (of which I am one) and the person who deleted all those articles (who is clearly linked in from the pages I linked to above) is both an administrator and still very much active on the site:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Na...

I'd say "nice try" but it wasn't...

What I do know is that it seems their maybe something more going on here


There really isn't, unless you have actual evidence.

Sorry if this spoils all the "fun" of laying a false trail, but there is enough poor quality data added by well-meaning users, that needs a lot of time devoted to the clean-up, without people adding deliberate fake pages.

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7 years ago

Totally agreed! If it is a hoax... then it should be exposed.

I just wish I could have read the Wikipedia pages as another source from which to verify for myself. Now, I'll wonder.

All the same... I look forward to continuing my hunt.

So far, I have only come across a legitimate book review that mentions his name... of course, that could simply be another filmmaker by the same name.

I'll keep you posted!

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I just wish I could have read the Wikipedia pages as another source from which to verify for myself.


As an admin I can see the old pages and they are a decent shot at fake pages, even if they were found out.

You can find one of the most recent versions here:

http://web.archive.org/web/2013081523...

The fake film pages aren't there but they are weaker and use some of the same sources:

Culture Shock:

^ Slaughterhouse magazine, issue #6; HCS Association, January 1990, pg. 64.
^ Horror Fan magazine, issue #4; GCR Publishing Group, October 1990, pg. 16


Mortal Remains:

^ Horror Fan magazine, issue #4; GCR Publishing Group, October 1990, pg. 18.
^ "Violent Film Sparks Riot at Baltimore Movie Theater," Washington Star, Wednesday, June 7th, 1972.
^ Slaughterhouse magazine, issue #6; HCS Association, January 1990, pg. 67.


Also removed was the Vernon Blake article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...

Partial bibliography
Books

Mortuus (1919)
Green Hell (1920)
Pieces of Eight (1921)
Jungle Drums (1923)
Thanatos (1925)
Mortal Remains (1926)

Short stories

The Chinaman (published as Le Chinois) (1918)
Goblins (1920)
Night Chills (1921)
Long Pork (1923)
Memento Mori (1927)
So Below (1927)
Hunter's Moon (1930)
The Fever (1932)
Demogorgon (1933)

References

^ a b Article in Gorezone magazine, issue #27; Starlog Group, Fall 1993.
^ Article in World of Horror magazine, issue #2; Eclectic Publishing, August 1989, pg. 32.
^ Article in New Orleans Times-Picayune, July 28, 1937.


Happy conspiracing, although you are wasting your time and you'll forgive us if we don't get these pages deleted in the meantime.

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7 years ago

Of course... not... do what you gotta do. Thanks for the Karl link.

Now I am starting to see where you and Jonathan are coming from!

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7 years ago

Joseph Blowe,

The reason I registered right before posting is I could not find a way to email IMDb directly, so this is the only way I could find to bring it to their attention.

Is there an email address for the IMDb staff published anywhere?

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Is there an email address for the IMDb staff published anywhere?


No need - they've read the thread and marked it as "Acknowledged". I assume this has been kicked over to their data processing staff to look into.

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7 years ago

Thanks for pointing it out. I didn't see that.

Although, the reason I asked that was because I was wondering if there is a better way to handle this type of problem in the future.

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Nope, what you did is the best way of addressing such an issue.

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Okay. Thanks.

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7 years ago

Jonathan,

You mentioned that you were looking for the cast list for the movie Mortal Remains 2012? I found it in a number of places actually. It is not that hard to locate.

You also mentioned that that film may be fake? But, I found a Facebook account for a movie under the same title, which I checked out. It stated that this film just had a showing at the American Film Institute. So I thought I'd call the Institute. Sure enough, a film by that name did recently play there.

What other films did these people make that are fake, though? Can I get the titles?

Has anybody even tried to make contact through the Facebook site?