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Thu, Nov 18, 2021 9:58 PM

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Credits repeatedly falsely altered

Sub no. #211117-193113-637000

I made a submission of full crew and companies for Episode 1 of a mini series, 59 items in total. 12 hours ago it was all fully approved, I visually checked it against my screenshots  to make sure it was all there with no mistakes and then marked the crew complete. Now tonight, looking at my contribution page, it has changed to 58 approved and 1 declined, I checked the company page and one of the companies has been taken off. I know for 100% fact it was there because I did the 2nd episode a few hours ago and imported that company over from Episode 1 to 2. Normally I'd just quietly re-add it, but I've never had an approved submission go live then be reversed several hours later into a decline and taken off, so I have to report it.

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9 m ago

Hi VonPunk -

I can confirm that the company credit (for "Skywalker Sound") was initially approved, but later removed by another contributor - this is why your contribution history first showed that all were approved and then later showed one item was declined.

If this company credit was removed in error, I encourage you to resubmit the credit with any online source links to help verify and our editors will take another look.

I hope this helps!

VonPunk

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@Michelle

Thanks Michelle. I have no idea why someone would remove a legitimate contribution like that. As you can see from this screenshot:  https://imgur.com/7XqL4lL

They have removed factual information and you should take steps to protect this data.

Quite a lot lately, things have been falsely altered that I added, just the other day someone altered all JB Smoove's credits on Curb Your Enthusiasm from 'Leon' (as appears onscreen) to 'Leon Black' like this place is TVMaze or something. And so many others. Makes me wonder why I bother sometimes.

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9 m ago

Hi VonPunk -

Thanks or posting the screen grab of the credits, I can confirm that the company credit has now been reinstated on the episode.  I also investigated further and can see that the contributor who removed the information had a misunderstanding of how company credits apply to a series/episode, as such I have reached out to them to clarify our current policies to help prevent future errors.

Regarding the additional issues you reported for "Curb Your Enthusiasm", was the character name credited on-screen for all episodes as "Leon"?

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It might help with this misunderstanding if you would remove this old message which appears when you want to add company credits to episodes:

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@Michelle

You are what we call in my country, a Bobby Dazzler. thank you so much.

And I really appreciate you looking at this 'Leon' situation which face palmed me this week.

So to explain 2 ways so it's clear, there was a mix of 'Leon' and 'Leon Black', he's been in 5 seasons but credited in 4 of them as Leon and in 1 as Leon Black. Also been credited as J.B. Smoove early on to changing to JB Smoove in later seasons. So what someone has done, is likely get OCD triggered by the messy facts and make every credit identical creating a ton of inaccuracies in his credits as what relates to what appeared on screen.

So one way of putting it is, he was credited only as 'Leon' in the 2007 - 2011 episodes with no name attributes needed except for on the episode (8.9) Mister Softee where he was credited as 'JB Smoove'

The 'JB Smoove' name attribute is accurate from 2017 to present.

In Season 9 (the 2017 episodes) he was credited as 'Leon Black' 

In Season 10 & 11 he was back to being credited as 'Leon'.

So in short, all name attributes from 2007 to 2011 (except Ep 8.9) should be removed and the character name listed as 'Leon'
And in the episodes from 2020 to present, listed also as 'Leon'.

Only the credits on the 2017 episodes can be left as they currently are.

Seasons 6 to 10 is on Amazon: Watch Curb Your Enthusiasm - Season 10 | Prime Video (amazon.com)

I also took a selection of screenshots as I clarified my info, I have all the seasons.

S6E2: https://imgur.com/lzitovj

S6E4: https://imgur.com/we1Z9T5

S7E1: https://imgur.com/qoXn3r4

S7E5: https://imgur.com/cij6tX3

S8E1: https://imgur.com/KPLLdbV

S8E10: https://imgur.com/fPyVZS8

S9E1: https://imgur.com/ONlQs1z

S9E10: https://imgur.com/iHhKoh2

S10E1: https://imgur.com/Bhf1LPI

S10E10: https://imgur.com/WhRwP85

S11E1: https://imgur.com/Txng4vx

Hope this was clear enough, but I'm here if more info is needed.

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9 m ago

Hi VonPunk -

Thanks for posting the screen grabs for several episodes throughout and clarifying, the character name updates have now been approved and the changes should be live on the site shortly.

Cheers!

VonPunk

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@Michelle

Amazing, I can see, apart from 7 from the 2007 - 2009 period that are lagging in going live, they all look exactly as they do onscreen now. Thank you. :)

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@Michelle

Those 7 credits from the 2007 to 2009 episodes have still not changed, 2 need changing from 'Leon Black' to 'Leon' and all 7 need the name attribute removing. Like 5 got half way there. If you don't circle back, I'll just dig out my DVD's and make some screengrabs and do it myself but I'll try for the easy option first.

Oh and 5 of those Skywalker Sound company credits have been deleted again, so I've added them again. I don't know if he submitted that before you warned him and took they several days to approve or he just ignored you. Dunno if there's anything you can do to protect these credits but I'm just dealing with vandalism several times a week now on several titles. 

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@Michelle
Hello Michelle.

I just went to fix those stuck Curb Your Enthusiasm credits for JB Smoove after you did the majority of them and found that all his credits have been falsely altered again and not a single one matches what is onscreen.

Could you put a flea in whoever's doing this's ear, please.

And I've submitted a completely screen accurate correction, 21 changes so far have been accepted, with 11 still pending. So could you push through any pending or declined here: #211203-065056-365000

Thanks.
 

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8 m ago

Hi VonPunk -

Apologies for the delayed reply.  Are the "Curb Your Enthusiasm" credits for 'J.B. Smoove' still listed incorrectly with the wrong character name and/or name attributes?  Or were these credits all corrected in the meantime with your recent updates?

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@Michelle Hi.

After you corrected the credits last time they were all altered again, but in the time between my last comment here and now, I've took time and corrected each one again with evidence as to how it appeared onscreen and in the fortnight since then they have not been tampered with again. So all is good at the moment.

I'm keeping an eye on them and I also took screengrabs on how they are listed on the site so if they are altered again, I can better visually present how they should be corrected. I'll post again if further issues occur but hopefully I won't have to.

Thank you for checking in here, it's greatly appreciated. Hope you have a great holiday period over the next couple of weeks. :)

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Hi @VonPunk -

Thanks for confirming.  I have also now taken  measures on the back-end to help prevent any further incorrect character/name changes.

Happiest of Holidays to you as well!