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Tue, Sep 14, 2021 8:31 PM

Correction accepted, but not actually made: Self: TV vs. Actor: TV

I made a correction to an entry for a television appearance by the actor William Gunn, which is incorrectly listed as a "Self: TV" appearance, explaining that the show in question is a dramatic narrative show, and he in fact plays a character named George, not himself. The correction was accepted, but the credit was not moved from "Self" to "Actor." 

https://contribute.imdb.com/contribution/210820-133141-467000/?ref_=ra_his_wa

I'm not sure how else to go about this, but if the credit could be switched to the proper category, that would be great. 

Thanks.

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13 d ago

It probably has to do with the title yourself. An employee will eventually answer, but the rests of us can't see your contribution. Which title are you talking about?

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12 d ago

Fixed by adding the reenactment keyword.

I added the keyword to the series a few hours ago, but nothing had changed.

So I deleted it around 15 minutes ago, then re-added it again, but this time I applied it to all the individual episodes, and now all the people playing characters are now correctly listed in the actor section.

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12 d ago

Thanks daniel_francis_gardecki for applying the correct keyword to this title.

 

Yes adding the reenactment keyword resolves the issue above. Further guidance found here

 

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12 d ago

Thanks. The credit (for the episode "No Man Is an Island," in the show "Look Up and Live": https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0635725/reference) is now displaying correctly, as an actor credit in a TV show rather than as "Self," but I'm confused why the "reenactment" keyword has been applied to fix this. The television show is not a reenactment, it's a straightforward dramatic television program with actors playing characters, in this case William Gunn playing a character named "George." So while adding the "reenactment" keyword seems to have fixed the error of how the role is being displayed, it's created another error by implying that the show is a reenactment, which it's not. Stylistically, the show is presented as though a sort of omniscient presenter is having the characters go back through their experiences, but it's all fictional, so there's nothing to "reenact" in the typical sense of the word as it might be applied to a documentary about an actual event. If there's a way to mark this show as straight-up fiction and William Gunn, like all the other actors already credited in the program, as an actor playing a role, just like any other fictional TV show, that would be the most accurate way to present the information. Thanks.

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@bt_ep46ktwen4a7 Because it's in the documentary genre, where they expect everyone to be playing themselves. 

Yet a lot of documentaries use people to act out situations which real people are talking about, so are obviously belong in the actor category.

Therefore, the reenactment keyword has to be added, so that those actors who are not credited as self are put in the correct actor category.

Also Look Up and Live (TV Series 1954–1979) - IMDb is an anthology religious series, with documentaries presented by multiple different hosts, not solely a drama like you claim, therefore each episode will focus on a different subject.

Here's an episode from 1965

Chicago Film Archive Catalogue (chicagofilmarchives.org)

Here's an episode from 1975

In God’s Providence, 3/2/1975 - YouTube

Here's an article from Charles B Templeton who hosted 3 episodes in 1954, and probably many more 

INSIDE TELEVISION - CBS & CBC (Templeton Memoir) (templetons.com)

And here's a book from him too

Look up and live: a presentation of CBS television work - Charles B. Templeton - Google Books

Here's a little snippet from Merv Griffin who hosted 4 episodes of the show between 1955 and 1962 

Merv - Merv Griffin - Google Books

Here's an item entry for a 1978 episode

CBS NEWS RELIGIOUS SPECIAL: A GROUND OF FAITH (TV) (paleycenter.org)

Here's the Wikipedia page

Look Up and Live - Wikipedia

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The series isn't in the documentary genre, but it has the non-fiction keyword, which has the same effect. If the series does include fiction, that keyword could be deleted. And then the reenactment keyword probably wouldn't be needed anymore either.

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Thanks—this is helpful. Judging from the episode I'm looking at, the show is a typical half-hour narrative, albeit with a somewhat "Twilight Zone"-style narrator speaking from the sidelines of the action. But judging from the episode at the CFA, it seems like the show, under the banner "Look Up and Live," presented both documentary and narrative episodes. So while the tags for the series as a whole might include "documentary," this episode in particular, "No Man is an Island," is not non-fiction or a reenactment.