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Wed, Nov 15, 2017 3:33 PM

Changes to formats supported for creating links within contributions

Today, Wednesday 15th November 2017, we will begin the roll-out of changes to the types of linking formats supported within our contribution interfaces.

Currently within our contribution interfaces we support two types of linking. They are:-

  • [link=nm1234567] for names and [link=tt1234567] for titles.  This is our modern linking method, which utilizes the unique identifier for each name or title in the database (which can be harvested from our URLs).
  • 'Tomoyuki Tanaka (I)'(qv) for names and _"Buffythe Vampire Slayer" (2001) {Once More, with Feeling (#6.7)}_ (qv) for titles. This is our legacy format which requires in-depth knowledge of our legacy name or title text format and is error prone.
As we continue our work to make improvements to our systems to simplify and make contribution consistent across all desktop/mobile platforms (please see Upcoming changes to several IMDb features for more details), we have made the decision to move fully to our modern linking method. 

As part of this work, the existing ability within the legacy format to perform name matching will be removed. An example of this feature is below:-



From today all contribution interfaces will begin being updated to support only the [link=nm1234567] for name and [link=tt1234567]. This change will not impact how the data is displayed on IMDb, it is purely a change to the contribution interfaces. This change affects 23 different data types:-

  • Plot Outline
  • Plot Summary
  • Crazy Credits
  • Alternate Versions
  • Connections
  • Articles
  • Books About This Person
  • Biographical Movies
  • Biography
  • Real Life Quotes
  • Name Trivia
  • Trivia
  • Nickname
  • Other Works
  • Portrayed in Other Movies
  • Salary
  • Spouse
  • Trademarks
  • Goofs
  • Quotes
  • Awards
  • Soundtracks
  • Literature

These changes will be rolling out over the next 24 hours during which time we will be monitoring the launch. We are in the process of ensuring that all submission guides are updated to reflect this change.

If you do spot any issues or have questions/feedback, please respond to this thread.

Thanks,

Rachel

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269 Messages

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3 years ago

OK, now I see what's going on. But would we be able to simply type in the Title as an alternate method to knowing a web address of what we're linking to (it's not always that easy remembering such)?

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As part of the change described in this announcement, at this point in time only [link=const] is supported.

Thanks,

Rachel

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Yes, yes. If it not too much to ask, then please consider that one too, IMDb staff.

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3 years ago

While I can see the necessity from a software maintenance perspective, from a contributors perspective this is... bad. As frankfob2 pointed out, it is now necessary to follow five steps instead of one or two. Additionally, one of the advantages of the old system was that, in the case of multiple persons with the same name, it gave you a choice of names. This is not the case anymore, you have to do everything manually, meaning the new method is less effective.
So unless a different way of adding/correcting links is implemented (for example, like adding cast members: you add a name and a list of possible matches appears), I will submit less data/corrections.

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Thank you for the feedback.  By moving to a single method for linking data (which is not highly error prone, as the qv style was), we will be in a position to add extra features in the future.

Your description of typing a name and a list of possible matches being displayed is an example of a future enhancement we can now consider if there is significant interest.

Thanks,

Rachel

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That certain would be nice to have. With all do respect twards those who aren't good with always remembering off by heart the web addresses for each page to put into the [Link=URL].

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Your description of typing a name and a list of possible matches being displayed is an example of a future enhancement we can now consider if there is significant interest.
I would be very interested in that.

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Add my "significant" interest to it too :)

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Same said for me about having Significant Interest in that.

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3 years ago

Feel free to sign this Petition of mine in regards to that Update of how it could sometime Improve: https://www.change.org/p/imdb-let-us-have-an-easier-way-of-linking-pages-in-trivia-pieces

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Hi, CuriousUserX90. In your petition description, you would be wise to include a screen capture of your contribution (IMDb entity tr3688509) rather than a link to it, or alternately an archive link of www.imdb.com/title/tt5220122/trivia.

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3 years ago

This new change has also led to a delay in process, before a trivia item i added would appear within 1 hour, now one i added for an actress whose starmeter is above 100k hasn't even appeared in 3 days ... please stop breaking whats not broken.

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Please see https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/contribution-information/when-will-my-update-be-added/GEK...

The changes to the qv format will improve processing times over the long term. Unfortunately there was an unrelated technical issue which was causing a delay across all sections earlier in the week and we are catching-up now.  You can always monitor specific processing times via https://contribute.imdb.com/times

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3 years ago

I can see how this update looks through a Computer Perspective: https://contribute.imdb.com/updates

All those Names now list [link=Number] in their place, appearing like how you'd see them when editing a Trivia Item on the App Version.

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3 years ago

Now that the new format of linking names and titles is fully implemented, some tools that would be nice might be (they probably would have been nice in the past, but, better now than never):

1.  Add a button on all name and title pages to write the appropriate format link to the clipboard (or similar location) that could then be pasted into an appropriate place in a submission.

2.  Add a button to all appropriate submission pages that pops up a search box over the page so a submitter can search for the name or title they want. Once the name or title is found, a button in the pop-up box would write the link in the correct format to the clipboard (or similar location) so all the submitter need do is paste the link in at the desired point in the submission.

My point is that, by providing simple tools that take a lot of the manual work out of building the link (and hiding the actual mechanics of the link itself), I think many of the complaints I see above would fade away. Also, by having the tools create the link in the appropriate format, any time links are changed/enhanced in the future, changing the tools would automatically provide the new format without changing the way a submitter creates the link.

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That would be Appreciated, and easier to have.

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3 years ago

I haven't had a chance to fully digest this change yet, but have had some thoughts about it so far.  I mostly live within the Soundtrack space, so my comments refer to that section, but obvously cross over to the others.

Complaint: Readability has been eliminated during editing.
Previously:
Written by 'Justin Timberlake' (qv), 'Tim Mosley (I)' (qv) and 'Scott Storch' (qv)
Performed by 'Justin Timberlake' (qv)
Produced by 'Tim Mosley (I)' (qv)
Currently:
Written by [link=nm0005493], [link=nm0608856] and [link=nm1395028]
Performed by [link=nm0005493]
Produced by [link=nm0608856]

The enhancements Owen suggests would greatly improve this, and should be the highest priority fix.

Suggestion: Putting in something like this should be allowed:
Performed by [link=Justin Timberlake]
and the system would make the conversion automagically.

Putting in something liks this, would bring up the name picker, where we select the correct name (roman numeral), and the system auto-converts it to the name const.
Produced by [link=Tim Mosley]

To-Do item: The back-end needs to update links when name merges happen. Example from soundtracks:
Music by [link=nm2228215]
Name/page doesn't exist under that const anymore.

To-Do item: Links to companies need to be disallowed at submission, and lists scrubbed for them. Example from soundtracks:
Courtesy [link=co0508645]

Typing the new syntax on a virtual keyboard (phone/tablet, etc...) is very time comsuming because the square brackets are not part of the standard virtual keyboard layout. The old (qv) system was much easier to type because single ticks and parens were easy to get to from a virtual keyboard.

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Indeed what you stated there would be a good improvement to have sometime.

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3 years ago

Apparently, using this method on a mobile phone is a real pain. Just getting a person’s or a title’s number copied to the clipboard is a nightmare. Seems like nobody bothered to consider that some people use phones to enter contributions while sitting on the couch and watching TV.
As things stand now, I’ll be passing on anything that involves this tedious procedure - too much work for me, sorry. I’ll gladly reconsider this decision if and when the system is improved.

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3 years ago

I realise this when it comes to linking, they won't do so if you use Capital Letters.

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3 years ago

I notice just now that you can't put in Full Links when linking pages, it can only be the stuff at the end. When doing so on the IMDB App, sometimes when I select on something so I can delete it, it can select a whole thing, making it harded to only include the starting point of the links. Things have gotten harder I'll say.