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Wed, Nov 15, 2017 3:33 PM

Changes to formats supported for creating links within contributions

Today, Wednesday 15th November 2017, we will begin the roll-out of changes to the types of linking formats supported within our contribution interfaces.

Currently within our contribution interfaces we support two types of linking. They are:-

  • [link=nm1234567] for names and [link=tt1234567] for titles.  This is our modern linking method, which utilizes the unique identifier for each name or title in the database (which can be harvested from our URLs).
  • 'Tomoyuki Tanaka (I)'(qv) for names and _"Buffythe Vampire Slayer" (2001) {Once More, with Feeling (#6.7)}_ (qv) for titles. This is our legacy format which requires in-depth knowledge of our legacy name or title text format and is error prone.
As we continue our work to make improvements to our systems to simplify and make contribution consistent across all desktop/mobile platforms (please see Upcoming changes to several IMDb features for more details), we have made the decision to move fully to our modern linking method. 

As part of this work, the existing ability within the legacy format to perform name matching will be removed. An example of this feature is below:-



From today all contribution interfaces will begin being updated to support only the [link=nm1234567] for name and [link=tt1234567]. This change will not impact how the data is displayed on IMDb, it is purely a change to the contribution interfaces. This change affects 23 different data types:-

  • Plot Outline
  • Plot Summary
  • Crazy Credits
  • Alternate Versions
  • Connections
  • Articles
  • Books About This Person
  • Biographical Movies
  • Biography
  • Real Life Quotes
  • Name Trivia
  • Trivia
  • Nickname
  • Other Works
  • Portrayed in Other Movies
  • Salary
  • Spouse
  • Trademarks
  • Goofs
  • Quotes
  • Awards
  • Soundtracks
  • Literature

These changes will be rolling out over the next 24 hours during which time we will be monitoring the launch. We are in the process of ensuring that all submission guides are updated to reflect this change.

If you do spot any issues or have questions/feedback, please respond to this thread.

Thanks,

Rachel

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4 y ago

So let me see if I've got this straight. Instead of using the "qv" method of linking names/titles, where you placed a single quote mark before and after a name, and end it with (qv), and placing an underscore before and after a title, and end it with (qv)--a fairly simple and straightforward way of doing things--now for every time you want to link a name and/or title, you have to (a) open up a new window, (b) call up the name or title in question, (c) copy the "[link=xxxx]", (c) paste it in the body of the item, (d) repeat the same procedure for every single name and/or title you wish to link in a particular item. So if a Trivia item, for example, has five or six actors' names and five or six films/TV series names that are unlinked, you have to go through that whole process in every single instance. Do I have that right, or is there a simpler way of doing this?

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4 y ago

I think this will help with names, but not so much with titles. 

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4 y ago

Well, this is problematic as far as making corrections to existing data is concerned.

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4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled "Legacy linking format is no longer supported".

Wait. Are we to understand correctly that the internal data is still stored in the "qv" syntax but in order to make changes a given piece of database information, a contributor has to manually convert all the existing references in the "qv" syntax to the key-link markup syntax?

That's just silly. It has the effect of making it much harder to submit corrections. I'm afraid that this is yet another example of a transition implementation approach from an old system to a new one that was not thought out by the IMDb software developers. I don't understand why the IMDb decision-making staff members do not realize these things beforehand. Or do they? So, are the contributors just guineapigs? Why do you treat us like this?

If it is not too much trouble, please fix this.

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4 y ago

Here is an example of the consequences of this rubbish: 171115-224531-302000.

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4 y ago

Existing data being corrected should be converted to the [link=...] form not the 'text' (qv) form.

It would be even better if 'Keep' items used a hyperlinked display form and the conversion to [link=...] markup was only in the editable text box. Showing both the hyperlinked display form and the editable markup for 'Correct' items would be even better (showing the effect of edits of course). I think that would deal with at least some of the issues of selecting the wrong name/title.

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4 y ago

Today we will begin the roll-out of changes
to the types of linking formats
supported within our contribution interfaces.
by Rachel, Official Rep
Joined on September 25, 2013
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/people/rachel_mactaggart
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put Today's date in your Announcements messages for history :
Wednesday, November 15, 2017


add Today's date & links to

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4 y ago

Just a quick update on this (and I will respond to other questions afterwards).  This change is now fully launched.

There were some instances in the past 24 hours where our contributors were unable to make corrections to existing links.  This was due to the challenges in rolling all the code changes out in sequence across all 23 types.  Apologies to you if you were impacted by this.

Any issues discovered from this point onward, please respond to this thread and we will investigate.

Thanks,

Rachel

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4 y ago

Would the syntax in the form for example [link=nm1234567]Tegetmeier[/link] render properly (as Tegetmeier)? If so, the I would give a thumbs up for one thing that I can appreciate about the format change.

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4 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Thought I'd ask about this Update that only Came through Today.

While I was posting a Trivia Piece on the IMDB App, I came across this, only today it came through:

Please correct errors:

Old-style (qv) linking is no longer supported. Please use [link=const] format instead


How exactly would that work?

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4 y ago

OK, now I see what's going on. But would we be able to simply type in the Title as an alternate method to knowing a web address of what we're linking to (it's not always that easy remembering such)?

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4 y ago

While I can see the necessity from a software maintenance perspective, from a contributors perspective this is... bad. As frankfob2 pointed out, it is now necessary to follow five steps instead of one or two. Additionally, one of the advantages of the old system was that, in the case of multiple persons with the same name, it gave you a choice of names. This is not the case anymore, you have to do everything manually, meaning the new method is less effective.
So unless a different way of adding/correcting links is implemented (for example, like adding cast members: you add a name and a list of possible matches appears), I will submit less data/corrections.

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4 y ago

Feel free to sign this Petition of mine in regards to that Update of how it could sometime Improve: https://www.change.org/p/imdb-let-us-have-an-easier-way-of-linking-pages-in-trivia-pieces

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4 y ago

This new change has also led to a delay in process, before a trivia item i added would appear within 1 hour, now one i added for an actress whose starmeter is above 100k hasn't even appeared in 3 days ... please stop breaking whats not broken.

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4 y ago

I can see how this update looks through a Computer Perspective: https://contribute.imdb.com/updates

All those Names now list [link=Number] in their place, appearing like how you'd see them when editing a Trivia Item on the App Version.