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Sun, Nov 28, 2021 8:34 PM

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Bug with Quotes Section

I noticed this issue a few times but it was in the period I was without forum account and it just occurred to post about it.

When I've noticed a character name is wrong, and I've had it corrected but there are quotes from this character in the Quote section, is that the old incorrect name remains in that section and there is no way to alter it, even if you delete the quote and re-add, the drop down menu with all the character names does not update to the corrected name. Even after a year of the correction it does not update nor can it be corrected.

This is not limited to one incident, it is every time the above happens.

So could you have the technical team look into this if they aren't already aware of it.

Thanks.

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Hi VonPunk -

Thanks for calling out this contribution issue with Quotes data.  Can you post the details for a recent example of this occurrence?  I can then pass this along to our technical team to investigate.

Cheers!

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@Michelle
Thanks Michelle

Yes I can vividly remember the times it's happened so this was the last one from about a year ago. 

Daniel Sunjata was credited on IMDb on an episode of The Twilight Zone (Seen here: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11839568/) as 'Detective Frank Reece' but when I watched the episode his character was called Peter Reece (in dialogue & subs but no character name appeared in the credits), I did research and could find no reason he was listed as Frank aside from by error so I submitted my findings and changed his name to 'Detective Peter Reece'. And it suffered from the problem above in the Quote section.

Same problem even longer ago with an episode of SeaQuest DSV with Seth Green, his character was called Nick but it was listed as Mark, the quote section even had a line erroneously claiming him being called Nick was a mistake which I submitted a correction to which was approved but never went live on the site. See here: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0696934/quotes/

Hope this helps. Thank you.

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It is true that you the name in the quotes page doesn't automatically change when the character name in the cast list is changed. It is mentioned in the guidelines that character names in the quote section are allowed to differ from the main cast list.

But it is possible to change the character name used in each quote by choosing "Other". Have you tried this?

PS. Previous similar report: Character name not updated in quotes

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@Peter_pbn

There's probably an even older thread I started about this. It is ridiculous that IMDb is saving an actual ASCII string as a character name instead of linking to the name of the character in the cast list so that it is updated when the character name is corrected. (There are lots of incorrect character names in the IMDb database. Basically, any pre-1990 movie has over verbose character names where someone wanted to show off their knowledge but does not follow the end credits.) 

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But as I mentioned in that thread, there are cases where you want the name in the quote page to be different from the character name in the main cast list.

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@Peter_pbn

I've only tried what I listed in the original post. If IMDb say 'Sorry this part of our system cannot be changed' I'll have a go at what you suggest. I'm not against the character name being different just not so different you might no have a clue who said what. If a name in the quote section doesn't even match a name in the cast in any way, it could be a head scratcher.

It looks like if I go the route of 'Other' it unlinks from the actors character page though, unless I'm looking at it wrongly.

It would be nice if corrections that were approved took effect on the site too. It's a bit like the quote section is less technologically advanced than the rest of the site.

It seems once a character name is added it's permanently embedded in this section of the site even if it's completely wrong.

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Nothing is unlinked just because you use Other.

To correct something on the quote page, you need to submit a correction to the quote page. In your Twilight Zone example, if you choose Other, then select the actor, the form calls up the name from the cast list.

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@Peter_pbn

Okay thanks Peter, I can see what you mean.

I'll leave those ones for now so the tech team can look at it, because the jist I got from those other threads from staff is that this shouldn't be an issue and it should update but also that it has never actually been fixed.

But when they are finished or in future, I'll use your method. Cheers.

Guess if I do any full character name corrections I'll have to remember to check the quote section too.

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@Peter_pbn

Those rare cases should not drive the entire database and should be able to be handled as free text. 

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In this episode of "Doctor Who" https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13464078/quotes?ref_=tttrv_ql_4

the character named "Mary Seacole" is misspelled as "Mary Seacote" in the Quotes section.

I submitted contribution #211216-000036-672000 to correct the mistake and it was actually kinda weird: since I didn't know exactly how to correct the character's name in the drop-down menu (the character's name in the Cast and Crew section is perfectly correct), I used the option "Other". Next to the "Other" box I entered the actress's name (Sara Powell (I)) and... lo and behold, the character's name was automatically filled in, in its correct spelling!

In other words, the actress's name appears to be connected to TWO character names,"Mary Seacote", which is incorrect, but it's how it's shown in the drop-down menu, and "Mary Seacole", which is correct, but will only show up if one uses the "Other" option, when trying to correct the quote.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Character name mispelled in drop-down menu in the Quotes section