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Mon, Oct 8, 2018 2:18 PM

Anybody notice the new "track contribution" screen now shows all contributions in that entry

It used to be when you entered something, like trivia, that was eligible for "track contribution" beta program, that the tracking was only for items that were eligible. It now has all items within the contribution whether they would be individually eligible or not. Check it out.



Pretty cool to see what has been processed and what is still processing. This is a great improvement IMDb. I only hope this roles out soon for all contributions.

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2 years ago

Another suggestion. Can we bring back the timestamp? On the old contribution page, you see something like "2018-10-29 04:17:58" on the new beta page it just shows the date: "2018-10-29".

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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll pass it along to the team.

Cheers,
Megan 

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2 years ago

Name merges/changes, Name splits, and Title merges/changes are not appearing in the new Contribution page.

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Thanks for reporting those bugs.

We have them already documented, but if you do notice any others please feel free to report them so that we can make sure they're logged.

Cheers,
Megan

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I've noticed another inconsistency on this page. For some TV episodes, it shows both the TV show name and the episode title. For other TV episodes, it just shows the episode title. It would be helpful if it always showed the TV show name and the episode title.

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Hi Adrian,

Thanks for reporting this - that sounds like a confusing experience. Do you have any specific contributions or TV shows as examples I can send to the team?

Cheers,
Megan

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Megan, this is pretty indicative of the problem. There are three episodes in this screenshot. They are all from Hotel Transylvania: The Series. However, only the first one names the series.

Note: This problem is transient. I refresh this page frequently and sometimes it brings up the series name for episodes that previously didn't have a series listed.



What's even further is that further down in my list, the episode "Brain Drain/Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow" appears with the TV series attached.



Maybe, it is in the type of data being edited?

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Adrian, thank you for providing more specific details. I'll make sure the team knows about this issue and can work towards resolving it. 

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Not sure what the issue is here: one credit in this update is still listed as pending, but it is already live on the site:

https://contribute.imdb.com/contribut...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1213641/...

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Same with an acting credit here:

https://contribute.imdb.com/contribut...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7818188/...

Possibly because I also submitted a gender update for the actor?

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Hi Peter,

We have discovered that gender updates are not accurately reflected when tracking cast contributions and will work on fixing that issue.

As for your company update, foley work classifies a company under the post-production services and facilities type instead of miscellaneous since foley sound effects are added after filming ends. This was changed in processing but evidently not reflecting on the contribution tracking page. I'll report this issue to the team - nice work spotting it!

Thanks for continuing to report these issues and helping us to improve the tracking experience. I'll keep you posted as we make progress on these issues and apologize for any confusion they cause in the meantime. 

Cheers,
Megan

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No problem; just providing feedback.

Another odd one is the "declined"
company edit here, which is also live on the page:

https://contribute.imdb.com/contribut...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1213641/...

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2 years ago

Here some keywords are listed as declined, but actually they were originally approved:

https://contribute.imdb.com/contribut...

What happened is that I deleted those keywords again yesterday (#181105-202850-990000) because I wanted to move them to an episode instead of the series.

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It is working fine for me: Win10/Firefox 52.8.0/French IP

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not here, Win10/Firefox 63.0.3/USA

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Working for me - macOS/Safari/UK - but I sometimes need to reload if i use the link I saved as a favourite, that gives an error at the first attempt.

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Aside from the previously reported issue where submissions to TV Episodes don't show the Series name, I think one of the biggest things that bother me is the lack of detail.  Compare the old display to the new display.  The new display doesn't show (at a glance) anything about what was submitted.



Count me in on the "images are WAY TOO BIG" thread as well. At most they should be about as big as the images in filmography listings, etc... (less than 50 pixels tall)
Thanks.

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Ron,
Have you clicked on "View contribution details"?
It is especially useful when some items are rejected, as IMDb will state why (even though it remains to be improved and finetuned)

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Have you clicked on "View contribution details"?
Did you read my comment?
"The new display doesn't show (at a glance) anything about what was submitted."

The new display requires two clicks to display what the old display showed by default (zero clicks).

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I think we have a misunderstanding:

in the "old" display (https://contribute.imdb.com/updates/history), you only had the list of submission with their IDs, the date and impacted data types. Period.

in the "new" display (https://contribute.imdb.com/contributions/history, still in test), you can get exactly the same information, plus the status (pending/approved/rejected) and when clicking on "View Contribution Details", the detail of your submission items (before/after) and the rejected items will be explained.

Are we on the same wavelength?

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Hi Ron,

Thanks for trying out our new history page!

I understand that not having the information about what data was in your contribution at a glance can be frustrating. Based on the feedback from you and everyone else on this thread, we're exploring ways to improve this new history page and make it more useful for everyone.

Please stay tuned for our progress, and thank you for your help in improving IMDb.

Cheers,
Megan

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Thank you for your disclosure, Megan.

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Thanks Megan.


I agree with Ron. I’d rather be able to see the type of submission that was submitted on the main contribution history page, as we currently can. You are unable to tell (in beta) if it's a trivia, image, plot summary or cast addition (etc) that has been submitted, whereas you can at the moment. Having to click on "View Contribution Details" to find out this detail is frustrating.



I must say, that I’m very happy to see image submissions have been added to the contribution history!

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I disagree with adding more information to the contribution page. It will just clutter up the page and all the information you are looking for is a click away where it makes more sense to display it because it also gives you the status of the those contributions.

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I support Adrian's approach.
Now, it would be better if we could have the 2 displays altogether, to be able to assess them better.

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I don't see how adding "trivia", "image", "plot summary" would clutter up the page.  Even minimising the image display would still provide ample room for 1-2 words to be added.  

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Karen, if you're only adding one or two items at a time, then I agree it doesn't hurt much to add that detail.

But personally, my submissions often include 50-100 items scattered across 20 or more categories, and that's when listing them starts to look like clutter. Here's the summary of one of my submissions earlier today:
90 items
Actress, Miscellaneous, Camera Department, Music Department, Actor, Art Department, Make Up Department, Sound Department, Producer, Assistant Director, Costume Department, Writer, Art Director, Casting Director, Composer, Editorial Department, Soundtrack, Cinematographer, Costume Designer, Editor, Location Management, Production Designer, Production Manager, Running Time
See the problem?

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So do I Phil. I average 300-400 submissions a day at the moment.  Since there's a problem with trivia submissions at the moment that IMDB Support have been looking into, I've been submitting more entries in other types of submissions.  Previously I was averaging around 100 trivia items a day.

I see what you're saying, but wouldn't your example above just warrant a "Cast added" or "Crew added"? What does it show in the current contribution history format?  I've never submitted anything to crew, only cast - but do crew submissions actually specify each entry as you've shown above?  I can certainly see how that would be a problem.

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(I copied the list above from the new contribution details page, but...) yes, the old history page shows a separate line for each and every department within the crew. As I see it, that level of detail now belongs on the contributions details page, not the main page, but I wouldn't object to a very brief summary such as 'cast, crew, trivia updated' on the main page.

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Incidentally, it took me a while to figure out why that list of categories seemed to be in a random order. It looks like the new contributions details page orders the categories according to the number of items I've updated within each.

That order may be of some use to someone, but for me it just makes it much harder to find any specific item within the page. Sorting the categories alphabetically (or better, the same order as the update form) would be more predictable and useful (or for bonus points, let us choose the sort order ourselves).

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Adding the summary that appears at the top of the details page - for example 


 would be more compact than the old line by line format. It is more than really needed I think but may perhaps be easier to do.

We have the same problem with the order in that list - number of items order even though the numbers are not there. I agree with Phil G that alphabetical or the same order as the update form would be better. Note that here we have "Miscellaneous" where the update form has "Other Crew" and I think that being last in the Cast and Crew section of the update form is the main difference from alphabetical order in that section.

One way in which I have used the old format summary is when adding credits to another episode of the same series where the number of credits per section tends to be similar even if the credits are not always the same. It is useful to be able to select a suitable number from the "Add x credits" dropdown for each relevant section so that I do not have to go round the re-check cycle adjusting the numbers. Getting to the equivalent information on the new page takes rather longer as you have to view details and then shrink the list of all approved items (or scroll down past all those items) to get to the individual sections with their counts. Having the same order as the update form would be really helpful here too.

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2 years ago

There seems to be an issue with accented characters sometimes displaying the html entity instead of the actual character...



Curiously, it displays fine for a contribution at series level, but the series title gets mangled when shown on an episode contribution. I've never noticed this issue anywhere else on IMDb, so what are you doing differently when displaying episodes on the new contributions page?

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Award edits don't seem to appear in the beta either. I don't think this has been mentioned in this thread.

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Changes to Episode numbers don't appear to be tracked.  If you change something from 1.6 to 1.7, etc...  Maybe the same as the Episode Title changes not being tracked?

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Since episode numbers and titles are in a single edit box, I would expect they are handled the same and are both not currently being tracked.